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This podcast promotes the Christ-centered covenantal biblical theology of Meredith Kline.
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Nov 15, 2019

This week we look at the biblical-theological theme of Har Magedon Gatherings.  First we look at some Old Testament types.  Next, we look at references to the ultimate Har Magedon gathering in the gospels.  Finally we look at what this gathering means for those who do not trust Christ.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 199 - 208

Hebrews 12

Revelation 20

Revelation 14

Matthew 14

Leviticus

Numbers

Revelation 19

Zechariah 9

1 Corinthians 6

Revelation 2

Genesis 6:5

Zechariah 9 and 14

Ezekiel 38 and 39

Daniel 11

2 Thessalonians 2

Revelation 16, 19 and 20

Daniel 7

 

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Nov 8, 2019

This week Todd and Chris discuss Kline’s most mature exegesis regarding the Sabbath.  First, we talk about the connection between the Sabbath and Judgment Day.  Next, we talk about the symbol of the Sabbath.  After that, we talk about the idea of “The Lord’s Day.”  Finally, we talk about Kline’s proposal for what to call the Christian day of worship.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 187 - 198

Genesis 3:8

Deuteronomy 5:15

Genesis 2

Exodus 16

Acts 15

Revelation 1:10

2 Peter 3:7-13

Romans 14:5

Colossians 2:16-19

Hebrews 3 & 4

Ephesians 1

 

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Nov 1, 2019

We are back to God, Heaven and Har Magedon!  First we discuss how the final assault of Antichrist on Har Magedon can be seen in OT types and shadows.  Next we look at how the Antichrist crisis is described in Revelation.  Finally, Todd asks Chris tough questions.  You don’t want to miss it!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 1179 - 186

Revelation 11:9

Revelation 20:3

Revelation 17:10

Revelation 17:12

Revelation 20:3-7

Revelation 11

2 Thessalonians 2

Revelation 13

2 Thessalonians 2:9

Ezekiel 38:2-6

Revelation 12

The Book of Revelation by Greg Beale

Triumph of the Lamb by Dennis Johnson

Ezekiel 39

Revelation 19

Revelation 20

Chiasm:

a. Rev. 12:9 - Dragon

     b. Rev. 13:14 - the Beast wages war

          c. Rev. 16:13-16 - Dragon, Beast, false prophet

     d. Rev. 19:19-20 - Beast and false prophet

e. Rev. 20:7-10 - Dragon

 

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Oct 25, 2019

This week we take a break from God, Heaven, and Har Magedon in order to talk to Dr. Bryan Estelle of Westminster Seminary California about his book Echoes of Exodus: Tracing a Biblical Motif.  This book has something for everyone.  Pour a cup of coffee and enjoy this conversation!

 

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Echoes of Exodus by Bryan Estelle

Genesis 3:15-21ff.

Galatians 4:4-5

Psalm 23

Deuteronomy 28

Luke 4

Luke 9

Revelation

Isaiah 43

Revelation 21

 

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Oct 18, 2019

If you started out your Christian life in churches like Todd and Chris did, you probably got a heavy dose of dispensational premillennialism.  In this episode, we compare and contrast premillennialism, postmillennialism, and amillennialism.  First we talk about the way the Old Testament prophets talked about the millennial period.  Next, we talk about how the book of Revelation talks about the same period of time.  Finally we talk about how the real question is: When does the Kingdom come in power and glory?

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 164 - 179

Daniel 9

Daniel 7

2 Corinthians 3:12

Daniel 12

Daniel 2

Revelation 11

Revelation 13

1 Peter

Matthew

Revelation 20

2 Thessalonians 2:6-7

 

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Oct 11, 2019

Much of Jesus’s life and ministry took place on mountains - and yet he avoided Jerusalem.  When Jesus underwent his wilderness temptation as the Last Adam, he defeated Satan.  Now Satan is bound so that he cannot stop the spread of the gospel around the whole world.  Download, listen, and tell your friends!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 156 - 165

Matthew 28:16

Revelation 12

Genesis 3

Psalm 2

Revelation 19

Isaiah 14

Hebrews 2:14

John 12:31

Revelation 20

Isaiah 49:24-25

Matthew 12:29

Matthew 28:18-20

Exodus 20

 

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Oct 4, 2019

Daniel chapters 2 and 9 are the focus of this week’s episode.  First, in Daniel 2, there are two mountains: Israel is the mountain that cuts into the world power, and another mountain that crushes all world powers.  Next, Daniel 9 is about God’s promise that within 70 weeks of Israel’s captivity, God would send the Messiah and ultimately save his people.  Finally we talk about how the Jubilee is the key, and how Jesus is one who guarantees the ultimate salvation.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 145 - 154

Daniel 2

Isaiah 2:2

Daniel 9

Isaiah 10

Matthew 1

Revelation 19

Psalms

Genesis 9

Matthew 24

 

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Sep 27, 2019

When Joshua led Israel into the Promised Land, they went through another baptismal ordeal in the Jordan River.  The war that ensued was not a just war as measured by the principle of common grace - it was holy war.  Then Israel’s kings were mostly pictures of what Jesus would not be like.  Finally, the mountain-site of the temple was a picture of heaven itself.  Download, subscribe, and tell your friends!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 134 - 144

Joshua 5:1-10

Joshua 23:1

Hebrews 4:8-9

Joshua 23 - 24

Deuteronomy 17

2 Samuel 7

2 Samuel 5 - 6

Philippians 2

Hebrews 9

Genesis 3

1 Corinthians 15

 

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Sep 20, 2019

This week, we talk about republication from a few different angles.  First, God gave Canaan to Israel because of his gracious promise to Abraham.  Second, God is the divine warrior who defeats all of Israel’s enemies - both human and demonic.  Third, God’s presence is located in different places before and after Sinai.  Finally, the typological covenant of works with Israel shows us that sinners sin.  Download, subscribe, and tell your friends!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 127 - 134

Romans 3 and 9

Deuteronomy 31:16

Faculty Forum Response by Meredith G. Kline

Joshua

2 Samuel 7

Revelation 18

Exodus 15

Numbers

Revelation 4

Genesis 2

Revelation 19

Numbers 14

Genesis 15

Amos 5:25

Joshua 5:5

John 1:17

1 Peter 1:5

 

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Sep 13, 2019

In this section, Kline looks at how God reveals the consummation of all things in the types and shadows of Israel.  Next, he describes the relationship between a covenant that God makes, and the canon (or authoritative body of literature) that governs the covenant.  Finally, he ties together phenomena like the Holy Spirit hovering (over creation and over Israel), the tabernacle, and the movement of all of that into God’s Sabbath rest.  God creates and he redeems - from beginning to end.  Download, subscribe, and tell your friends!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 120 - 127

Exodus 1 - 18

Exodus 19 - 50

The Structure of Biblical Authority by Meredith Kline

Kingdom Prologue by Meredith Kline

Exodus 20 - 23

Exodus 24

Jeremiah 4

Deuteronomy 28

Exodus 12:2

Genesis 1:2

Exodus 10:21

Exodus 25 - 32

Genesis 2:2

Proverbs 8

 

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Sep 6, 2019

If you are concerned about standing before God on Judgment Day, we double down on our insistence that you have already undergone that judgment in Christ.  First, we talk about how different events in the Old Testament were types of the final judgment.  Next, we talk about the redemptive judgment aspect of events like the flood and crossing the Red Sea.  Finally, we talk about how Har Magedon will be the location of the final judgment.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 113 - 

Genesis 15

Exodus 3

Genesis 3

1 Corinthians 10

1 Peter 3

Psalm 63

Psalm 78

Exodus 13:18

Exodus 17

Deuteronomy 32:10

Genesis 1

Jeremiah 31

 

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Aug 30, 2019

We continue in chapter 10 this week.  First, we talk about how worship during the time of Abraham was not theocratic.  He built altars, but the culture all around him was very much like ours. Next, we talk about how - even at Abraham’s stage of history - there was an antichrist crisis.  God’s people do suffer, but God has not lost in past antichrist crises - and he won’t lose in the final Antichrist crisis.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 106 - 113

Genesis 49

Genesis 20

Exodus

Hebrews 11

Genesis 12ff.

Psalm 105

2 Corinthians 4

Exodus 1

Genesis 6

 

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Aug 23, 2019

This week we begin with a discussion of the typological significance of Abraham’s obedience.  Next, we turn to the topic of Abraham living at peace with his unbelieving neighbors.  Finally we talk about how our time in covenant history is very much like Abraham’s.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 102 - 106

Genesis 15:1

Genesis 22:16-18

Genesis 26

Galatians 3:17

Genesis 14

Jeremiah 29

1 Timothy 2

Daniel

Genesis 10

Exodus

 

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Aug 16, 2019

Can it ever hurt to talk about the gospel some more?  No.  We didn’t think so, either.  This week we talk about the gospel promises that God gave Abraham.  First we talk about the first-level fulfillments in Isaac, Israel, and Canaan.  Next we talk about the second-level fulfillment in Jesus, believers in Jesus, and the new heavens and new earth.  Finally, you get an extra bonus with Todd’s helpful understanding of Ephesians 6.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 93 - 102

Genesis 3

Genesis 12

Genesis 9

Galatians 3

Romans 4:3

Genesis 15

Jeremiah 38:14

Romans 9

Jeremiah 31

1 & 2 Kings

1 & 2 Chronicles

Romans 11

Ephesians 6

Romans 4:13

Hebrews 11:9

 

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Aug 9, 2019

There is some review this week with the material about Noah.  But we think you’ll find our conversation full of fresh insights.  First, we talk about how Noah was a type of Christ in his obedience.  Next, we talk about what this episode of covenant history teaches us about the antichrist crisis.  Finally we talk about final judgment and how it is a great source of comfort and assurance to believers in Jesus.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 78 - 92

Genesis 3

Genesis 9

Genesis 6

Genesis 7:1

Genesis 6:8

2 Peter 3:1-10

Genesis 4

Genesis 6:1-4

Jude 6

Genesis 7:16

Hebrews 11:7

 

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Aug 2, 2019

This week we talk about Genesis 3:8 and covenant theology.  First, we discuss God’s appearance after Adam and Eve were covenant breakers.  Next, we discuss the differences between the eternal Covenant of Redemption and the historical Covenant of Grace.  Finally we talk about the Antichrist and preaching redemptive-historically.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 70 - 77

Genesis 3:8

Genesis 3:14-15

John 6:38

Psalm 2

Luke 22:29

Acts 20:28

John 17:4-5

2 Samuel 7

Genesis 2:17

Revelation 13

1 John 1-2

Biblical Theology: Old and New Testaments by Vos

Preaching Christ in all of Scripture by Clowney

Preaching the Whole Bible as Christian Scripture by Graeme Goldsworthy

According to Plan by Graeme Goldsworthy

Christ-Centered Biblical Theology by Graeme Goldsworthy

 

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Jul 26, 2019

We finish up chapter seven this week.  First we revisit the question: Is Ezekiel 28 talking about Adam or Satan?  Next, we talk about what it meant for Adam to guard the garden.  Finally, we talk about how Jesus is like both Adam and Israel in wilderness temptation.  And you know what that means: Republication!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 65 - 69

Ezekiel 28:15-16

Luke 10:18

Psalm 8

Genesis 2

2 Samuel

1 Kings

2 Kings

Ephesiahs 5:22-33

Genesis 3

 

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Jul 19, 2019

Since chapter 6 is all about how Megiddo is not Har Magedon, we move quickly through that, and spend most of our time discussing the first few sections of chapter 7.  First, we talk about how heaven must be earned.  Next, we talk about Sabbath and probation.  Finally, we talk about Kline’s argument about merit. Subscribe, download, and tell your friends!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 49 - 65

Revelation 16:16

Revelation 9:11

Isaiah 14:13-14

Ezekiel 38 - 39

Proverbs 8

Revelation 1 - 2

Psalm 24

 

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Jul 12, 2019

Everyone (who reads Kline) knows that Har Magedon is a mountain.  But did you know that Eden was a mountain, too?  First we discuss how Eden was a replica of heaven.  Next we talk about how Canaan was like Eden (and like heaven).  We take a moment to camp out on the idea of the Sabbath.  Finally, we talk about how the republication of the covenant of works at Sinai is related to Eden being a mountainous replica of heaven.  You’re going to like this!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 40 - 48

Genesis 1:2

Genesis 3:8

Ezekiel 28:13-14

Genesis 13

Ezekiel 47:12

Psalm 132:8

Isaiah 66

Hebrews 4

Hebrews 3-5

Isaiah 14:13

Psalm 48:2

Genesis 3

Hosea 6:7

Matthew 1-5

Isaiah 2:1-2

Ezekiel 28

Isaiah 6

Genesis 2

Isaiah 54

Isaiah 31:5

Psalm 24

 

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Jul 5, 2019

Chapter 4 is the last one that focuses on heaven the way this book has been so far. In this chapter, Kline suggests that the Spirit replicates the glory of God in every aspect of creation.  For example, we see the theme of the Spirit of God overshadowing persons or groups of people throughout the Bible.  In the same way, God designed certain things in creation to serve that same overshadowing function.  But we also talk about patriarchy and Kline’s unique take on the image of God in man.  There’s something for everyone!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 31 - 39

Genesis 1:1-2

Nehemiah 9:19-20

Deuteronomy 32:10-12

Matthew 17:5

Mark 9:7

Luke 9:34

Psalm 19

Genesis 2:2-3

Hebrews 4

Psalm 82

Colossians 3:10

Daniel 12

Job

Psalm 104:6

 

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Jun 28, 2019

What will it be like when God transforms this creation into the new heavens and new earth?  That is the topic Kline is dealing with in this chapter.  One possibility is that there will be a lot of continuity with this creation.  Another possibility is that there will be such radical discontinuity that it is almost as though God must create everything all over again.  Give the episode a listen and let us know what you think!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 18 - 27

Ephesians 6

Isaiah 51:6

Revelation 6:14

2 Peter 3:10-13

Genesis 8:22

Isaiah 11:6-9

Isaiah 65:25

Genesis 2

Romans 8:19-22

1 Thessalonians 4:17-18

 

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Jun 21, 2019

We’re treading in deep water this week.  First, Kline talks about the physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit in the initial creation of the invisible heavens.  Kline calls that physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit “endoxation.”  Next, we talk about the Holy Spirit’s role in the incarnation, and the relationship between the persons of the Trinity.  Finally, we distinguish what Kline is saying from what Scott Oliphint is saying.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 10 - 15

Genesis 1:1

Colossians 1:16

Job 38:7

Genesis 1:2

Exodus

Hebrews 4

Ephesians 4

Genesis 22

 

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Jun 14, 2019

This week we begin Kline’s last book: God, Heaven and Har Magedon.  Chapter one is all about heaven.  First we talk about how even though heaven is currently invisible, it is not far away.  Next, we talk about heaven is the temple.  Finally, we talk about how we should not be focused on or satisfied with this world.  We should be longing for the new heavens and the new earth.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 3 - 9

Isaiah 6

Ezekiel 1

Revelation 1

Daniel

Deuteronomy 26

Hebrews 4

Revelation 21:22

Isaiah 4:5-6

Revelation 15:8

John 3

2 Peter

 

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Jun 7, 2019

This week we try a live YouTube broadcast so that we can take listener questions live, in real time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6A6pcG2QoM 

 

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1. Would God deliver Israel out of bondage, only to deliver them out of a covenant of works?

Acts 15:10

 

2. Jeff - 2 Thessalonians 2 and the man of lawlessness -

Revelation 11

Daniel 7

 

3. Doesn’t Kline’s Framework Interpretation mean that we don’t have to take Genesis literally?

Genesis 1-2

Hebrews 4

 

4. Michael - Are there any arguments for the Framework Interpretation that you struggled with, or thought were weak arguments?

 

5. Objection to intrusion ethics - doesn’t intrusion ethics mean that we have nothing to say to the unbelieving world?

Luke 24

John 3

 

6. Does Kline represent True Reformed Theology?

 

7. How do Klinean issues like republication or Framework help or hurt men who are pursuing ordination in various presbyteries?

 

8. Are Klineans silencing pastors from talking about political or social issues?

 

9. Tony - Was the Abrahamic covenant “A” covenant of grace that typified “THE” covenant of grace to be inaugurated in Jesus Christ’s blood?

Galatians 3:8

Genesis 12

Galatians 2-4

Romans 4-5

Hebrews 11

Genesis 3

Romans 11:16ff.

 

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May 31, 2019

Now that we have finished Glory in Our Midst, we take a break to take some listener questions.

 

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1. What is Republication?

Genesis 3:8

Hosea 6:7

 

2. How does Kline understand 2 Thessalonians 2?

1 Thessalonians 5

2 Peter 3:10

Revelation

Daniel 11 - 12

1 John

Galatians 4

 

3. What is New Covenant Theology?

 

4.  What about the importance of the Jewish people?

Romans 9

Hosea 1:9

Revelation 3:9

Galatians 3:28

 

5. How can Adam be a type of a federal head and a federal head at the same time?

The Tale of Two Adams by Chris Caughey (Amazon)

The Tale of Two Adams by Chris Caughey (free PDF)

Romans 5:12

1 Corinthians 15:40-50

Ephesians 5:22-33

 

6. What do you think about J.V. Fesko’s new book on apologetics?

Reforming Apologetics by J.V. Fesko

Classical Apologetics by R.C. Sproul

The Defense of the Faith by Cornelius Van Til

 

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