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This podcast promotes the Christ-centered covenantal biblical theology of Meredith Kline.
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Jul 19, 2019

Since chapter 6 is all about how Megiddo is not Har Magedon, we move quickly through that, and spend most of our time discussing the first few sections of chapter 7.  First, we talk about how heaven must be earned.  Next, we talk about Sabbath and probation.  Finally, we talk about Kline’s argument about merit. Subscribe, download, and tell your friends!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 49 - 65

Revelation 16:16

Revelation 9:11

Isaiah 14:13-14

Ezekiel 38 - 39

Proverbs 8

Revelation 1 - 2

Psalm 24

 

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Jul 12, 2019

Everyone (who reads Kline) knows that Har Magedon is a mountain.  But did you know that Eden was a mountain, too?  First we discuss how Eden was a replica of heaven.  Next we talk about how Canaan was like Eden (and like heaven).  We take a moment to camp out on the idea of the Sabbath.  Finally, we talk about how the republication of the covenant of works at Sinai is related to Eden being a mountainous replica of heaven.  You’re going to like this!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 40 - 48

Genesis 1:2

Genesis 3:8

Ezekiel 28:13-14

Genesis 13

Ezekiel 47:12

Psalm 132:8

Isaiah 66

Hebrews 4

Hebrews 3-5

Isaiah 14:13

Psalm 48:2

Genesis 3

Hosea 6:7

Matthew 1-5

Isaiah 2:1-2

Ezekiel 28

Isaiah 6

Genesis 2

Isaiah 54

Isaiah 31:5

Psalm 24

 

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Jul 5, 2019

Chapter 4 is the last one that focuses on heaven the way this book has been so far. In this chapter, Kline suggests that the Spirit replicates the glory of God in every aspect of creation.  For example, we see the theme of the Spirit of God overshadowing persons or groups of people throughout the Bible.  In the same way, God designed certain things in creation to serve that same overshadowing function.  But we also talk about patriarchy and Kline’s unique take on the image of God in man.  There’s something for everyone!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 31 - 39

Genesis 1:1-2

Nehemiah 9:19-20

Deuteronomy 32:10-12

Matthew 17:5

Mark 9:7

Luke 9:34

Psalm 19

Genesis 2:2-3

Hebrews 4

Psalm 82

Colossians 3:10

Daniel 12

Job

Psalm 104:6

 

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Jun 28, 2019

What will it be like when God transforms this creation into the new heavens and new earth?  That is the topic Kline is dealing with in this chapter.  One possibility is that there will be a lot of continuity with this creation.  Another possibility is that there will be such radical discontinuity that it is almost as though God must create everything all over again.  Give the episode a listen and let us know what you think!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 18 - 27

Ephesians 6

Isaiah 51:6

Revelation 6:14

2 Peter 3:10-13

Genesis 8:22

Isaiah 11:6-9

Isaiah 65:25

Genesis 2

Romans 8:19-22

1 Thessalonians 4:17-18

 

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Jun 21, 2019

We’re treading in deep water this week.  First, Kline talks about the physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit in the initial creation of the invisible heavens.  Kline calls that physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit “endoxation.”  Next, we talk about the Holy Spirit’s role in the incarnation, and the relationship between the persons of the Trinity.  Finally, we distinguish what Kline is saying from what Scott Oliphint is saying.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 10 - 15

Genesis 1:1

Colossians 1:16

Job 38:7

Genesis 1:2

Exodus

Hebrews 4

Ephesians 4

Genesis 22

 

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Jun 14, 2019

This week we begin Kline’s last book: God, Heaven and Har Magedon.  Chapter one is all about heaven.  First we talk about how even though heaven is currently invisible, it is not far away.  Next, we talk about heaven is the temple.  Finally, we talk about how we should not be focused on or satisfied with this world.  We should be longing for the new heavens and the new earth.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 3 - 9

Isaiah 6

Ezekiel 1

Revelation 1

Daniel

Deuteronomy 26

Hebrews 4

Revelation 21:22

Isaiah 4:5-6

Revelation 15:8

John 3

2 Peter

 

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Jun 7, 2019

This week we try a live YouTube broadcast so that we can take listener questions live, in real time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6A6pcG2QoM 

 

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1. Would God deliver Israel out of bondage, only to deliver them out of a covenant of works?

Acts 15:10

 

2. Jeff - 2 Thessalonians 2 and the man of lawlessness -

Revelation 11

Daniel 7

 

3. Doesn’t Kline’s Framework Interpretation mean that we don’t have to take Genesis literally?

Genesis 1-2

Hebrews 4

 

4. Michael - Are there any arguments for the Framework Interpretation that you struggled with, or thought were weak arguments?

 

5. Objection to intrusion ethics - doesn’t intrusion ethics mean that we have nothing to say to the unbelieving world?

Luke 24

John 3

 

6. Does Kline represent True Reformed Theology?

 

7. How do Klinean issues like republication or Framework help or hurt men who are pursuing ordination in various presbyteries?

 

8. Are Klineans silencing pastors from talking about political or social issues?

 

9. Tony - Was the Abrahamic covenant “A” covenant of grace that typified “THE” covenant of grace to be inaugurated in Jesus Christ’s blood?

Galatians 3:8

Genesis 12

Galatians 2-4

Romans 4-5

Hebrews 11

Genesis 3

Romans 11:16ff.

 

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May 31, 2019

Now that we have finished Glory in Our Midst, we take a break to take some listener questions.

 

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1. What is Republication?

Genesis 3:8

Hosea 6:7

 

2. How does Kline understand 2 Thessalonians 2?

1 Thessalonians 5

2 Peter 3:10

Revelation

Daniel 11 - 12

1 John

Galatians 4

 

3. What is New Covenant Theology?

 

4.  What about the importance of the Jewish people?

Romans 9

Hosea 1:9

Revelation 3:9

Galatians 3:28

 

5. How can Adam be a type of a federal head and a federal head at the same time?

The Tale of Two Adams by Chris Caughey (Amazon)

The Tale of Two Adams by Chris Caughey (free PDF)

Romans 5:12

1 Corinthians 15:40-50

Ephesians 5:22-33

 

6. What do you think about J.V. Fesko’s new book on apologetics?

Reforming Apologetics by J.V. Fesko

Classical Apologetics by R.C. Sproul

The Defense of the Faith by Cornelius Van Til

 

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May 24, 2019

We wrap up Zechariah’s seventh and final night vision.  First, we talk about the crown that was made for Joshua.  Next, we talk about the covenant of redemption and the fact that believers in Jesus are the reward that Jesus receives for his obedience.  Lastly, we talk about the republication of the covenant of works in the Mosaic covenant, and the fact that Jesus fulfills the law on our behalf.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 219 - 238

Zechariah 6:9-15

Chiastic structure:

a. The branch (rightful heir of the throne)

b. He shall build the temple

b. He shall build the temple

a. Royal honor

2 Samuel 7

Revelation 22

Psalm 45

Psalm 110:3

Matthew 21

Ephesians 1-3

Psalm 24:3-5

Revelation 5

 

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May 17, 2019

We begin Zechariah’s seventh and final night vision.  First, we talk about the the two mountains.  Next, we talk about chariots.  Lastly, we talk about the final judgement and the Sabbath.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 203 - 217

Zechariah 6:1-8

Chiastic structure:

     a. Vision one - nations

          b. Vision two - Land of Judah

               c. Vision three - Jerusalem

                    d. Vision four - holy of Holies

               c1. Vision five - Jerusalem

          b1. Vision six - Land of Judah

     a. Vision seven - nations

Genesis 15

Deuteronomy 27

Zechariah 14:5

Ezekiel 1 (especially verse 7)

Daniel 7

Revelation 1

1 Kings 7

Isaiah 14:13

Psalm 48:2

Psalm 68

Zechariah 2:13

Daniel 11

Ezekiel 38 - 39

Psalm 132:8

Genesis 1

Pg. 216

Isaiah 25:10

Genesis 2

Genesis 1:2

 

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May 10, 2019

We finish Zechariah’s sixth night vision.  First, we talk about the judgment that is coming on Israel.  Next, we talk about how the harlot Babylon is identified with the woman in Zechariah 5.  Finally, we talk about how the NT does not teach postmillennialism.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 190 - 200

Zechariah 5:1-11

Zechariah 13

Isaiah 5

Isaiah 27

Galatians 3

1 Peter 1:3-12

Revelation 2

Revelation 3

Deuteronomy 28

Revelation 12

Exodus

Revelation 17:5

Revelation 11

Revelation 17

Revelation 18:2, 7

Hebrews 8:1-13

Romans 8

Matthew 24

Romans 10:17

 

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May 3, 2019

We begin Zechariah’s sixth night vision.  First, we talk about the judgment that is coming in the winged imagery.  Next, we talk about how this vision reverses the 10th plague and the Exodus.  Finally, we talk about the ancient near eastern image of the winged woman.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 177 - 190

Zechariah 5:1-11

Deuteronomy 28

1 Kings 6:3

Joel 3

Jeremiah 36

Jeremiah 39

1 Kings 18

Exodus 11

Matthew 23:38

Deuteronomy 29

2 Chronicles 22

Matthew 2:13-15

Romans 9

Acts 2

Matthew 25

 

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Apr 26, 2019

This week we wrap up Zechariah’s fifth night vision.  First, we talk about how Messiah is the anointer with the Spirit.  Next, we talk about how the two trees represent the prophets, and ultimately the Lord.  Finally, we talk about how the Great Commission is the lens through which we should understand Zechariah 4.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 163 - 173

Zechariah 4:11-14

Revelation 21

Isaiah 27:12

Isaiah 5:1

Revelation 11

Matthew 28

Deuteronomy 28

Matthew 5

Exodus 3

Jonah

Ruth

Acts 2

 

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Apr 19, 2019

We are almost finished with Zechariah’s fifth night vision.  First, we talk about how conquest is like construction.  Next, we talk about how construction is like creation.  Finally, we talk about how we are tempted to despise the small things even in the New Covenant.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 156 - 162

Zechariah 4:6-10

Psalm 118:6, 22

Nehemiah

Isaiah 41:15

Genesis 1

Job 38

Matthew 12

Revelation 20

Romans 10:17

 

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Apr 12, 2019

We continue on in Zechariah’s fifth night vision.  First, we talk about Christ being anointed with the Spirit.  Next, we talk about the unilateral origin of covenants.  We also talk about how God must approve or commission a king to build the temple.  Finally, we talk about other temple-building examples from the OT.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 141 - 156

Zechariah 4:7-10

Isaiah 11

Revelation

Acts

Daniel 9

Daniel 12

Revelation 1

John 1

Revelation 11

Genesis 1-2

Exodus 25-50

Six Lectures by Miles Van Pelt on OT Biblical Theology

2 Samuel 7

Haggai

Ephesians 1

Isaiah 44:28

Ezra

 

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Apr 5, 2019

This week we begin Zechariah’s fifth night vision.  First, we talk about what menorahs are.  Next, we talk about the relationship between the Spirit and the menorah.  Finally, we talk about what this vision means for the Church.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 131 - 141

Zechariah 4:1-10

Genesis 15

Revelation 1

Revelation 4:5

Revelation 11

1 Kings 7:49

Genesis 1

Exodus 15:2, 20

 

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Mar 29, 2019

This week we wrap up Zechariah’s fourth night vision.  First, we talk about the republication of the original covenant of works.  Next, we talk about the priestly and kingly role of Joshua.  Finally, we talk about how the Messiah’s defeat of Satan is by God’s own initiative.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 117 - 127

Zechariah 3:6-10

Psalm 132:12

Revelation 21 and 22

Psalm 73:24-25

Isaiah 53

Exodus 29

Psalm 132:18

Exodus 28

Zechariah 4:10

Haggai 2:23

1 Kings 4:25

Genesis 3:15

Psalm 132:8-9

John 3

Colossians 1

 

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Mar 22, 2019

We continue on in Zechariah’s fourth night vision.  First, we talk about the removal of Joshua’s sin.  Next, we talk about the clothing of Joshua with the righteousness of Christ.  Finally, we revisit the way the glory of the Holy Spirit was replicated in the vestments of the OT high priest.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 107 - 117

Zechariah 3:3-5

Exodus 28 - 29

Psalm 51

2 Samuel 12:13

Isaiah 6

Revelation 7

Isaiah 61:10

Hebrews

Isaiah 28:5

Glory-Cloud Podcast: 043 – Images of the Spirit Chapter 2 – A Priestly Model of the Image of God

Genesis 3

Ezekiel 16:8, 14

Revelation 19

 

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Mar 15, 2019

We begin Zechariah’s fourth night vision in this episode.  First, we talk about the war between Christ and Satan.  Next, we talk about the Har-Magedon (Armageddon) crisis.  Finally, we talk about how Jesus fulfills Genesis 3:15.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 95 - 107

Zechariah 3:1-3

Zechariah 6:9-15

Zechariah 11:1-17

Chiastic structure:

a. Vision one - nations

    b. Vision two - Land of Judah

         c. Vision three - Jerusalem

              d. Vision four - holy of Holies

         c1. Vision five - Jerusalem

    b1. Vision six - Land of Judah

a. Vision seven - nations

Genesis 3

Job

1 Chronicles

Deuteronomy 28

Revelation 12

Genesis 3:15

Psalm 9 and 18

Revelation 12

 

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Mar 8, 2019

We wrap up Zechariah’s third night vision in this episode.  First, we talk about how God validates the message of the angel.  Next, we talk about how God will avenge his people.  Finally, we talk a bit about final judgment.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 86 - 92

Zechariah 2:9-13

Isaiah 49:23

Isaiah 52:6

Isaiah 60:16

John 5:36

John 17:22-23

Revelation 1:7

Romans 2

Deuteronomy 32:9, 43

Romans 8

2 Corinthians 6

1 Corinthians 6

1 Corinthians 5

1 Corinthians 7

 

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Mar 1, 2019

We begin Zechariah’s third night vision as we continue through Glory in Our Midst in this episode.  First, we talk about God as the builder of the New Jerusalem.  Next, we talk about how God conquers his enemies by making them his friends and his children.  Finally, we talk about the inclusion of the Gentiles in God’s people.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 71 - 86

Zechariah 2:1-5

Ephesians 3:5

Zechariah 1

Zechariah 2:6-13

Jeremiah 31

Genesis 22:8

Revelation 11:1-2

Job

Isaiah 54:3

Acts 14

Revelation 21

Exodus 32

John 17

Isaiah 14:1

Zechariah 9:7

Zechariah 14:6

Ruth

Isaiah 19

 

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Feb 22, 2019

We begin Zechariah’s second night vision as we continue through Glory in Our Midst in this episode.  First, we talk about the “horns” in Zechariah and in Revelation, and how they represent world powers.  Next, we talk about how God defeats these world powers that are assaulting his people.  Finally, we talk about how Jesus is the horn of salvation that God has raised up for us. 

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 57 - 68

Zechariah 1:18-21

Jeremiah 31

Daniel 7

Revelation

Psalm 74:4, 18

Daniel 2

Ezekiel 28

Isaiah 14:13ff.

Daniel 4

Matthew 24

Psalm 75:10

Luke 1:68ff.

Ephesians 1:20ff.

Revelation 12

 

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Feb 15, 2019

We talk about God’s gracious and comforting words in Zechariah 1:13-17 in Glory in Our Midst.  First, we discuss the typological nature of Israel’s covenant context.  Next, we talk about how much of the content of the prophecy will be fulfilled when Christ returns.  After that, we discuss how Zechariah’s message of perseverance is a rebuke to theonomic postmillennialism.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 41 - 55

Zechariah 1:13-17

Prophetic Idiom

Ezekiel

Zechariah 2:5

Ezekiel 39:25

Romans 11

Jeremiah 31

Prophetic Foreshortening

Acts

Zechariah 2:11

Revelation 20

Pg. 54

 

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Feb 8, 2019

We continue on in Glory in Our Midst.  First, we discuss eschatology and judgment.  Next, we talk about how the Angel of the Lord advocates for God’s people.  After that, we discuss the identity of God’s people as sojourners.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 31 - 41

Zechariah 1:8

Genesis 3:8

Leviticus 26:12

Zechariah 1:9-11

Zechariah 1:12

Jeremiah 30:10

Haggai 2

Leviticus 26:41

Isaiah 53

Deuteronomy 28

Nehemiah

1 Peter

Zechariah 3

 

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Feb 1, 2019

We have more of Glory In Our Midst this wee.  First, we discuss myrtle trees in the wilderness.  Next, we talk about the relationship between the myrtle trees and two trees in the Garden of Eden.  After that, we discuss myrtle trees and tabernacles.

 

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Glory In Our Midst by Meredith G. Kline

Glory In Our Midst pp. 15 - 30

Isaiah 41

Genesis 1 and 2

Revelation 22

Zechariah 4

Zechariah 14:16

Revelation 14

2 Corinthians 5

Leviticus 23:40

Exodus 19:9

Psalm 18

Deuteronomy 5:24

Zechariah 1:8

Revelation 1

 

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