What will it be like when God transforms this creation into the new heavens and new earth? That is the topic Kline is dealing with in this chapter. One possibility is that there will be a lot of continuity with this creation. Another possibility is that there will be such radical discontinuity that it is almost as though God must create everything all over again. Give the episode a listen and let us know what you think!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 18 - 27
Ephesians 6
Isaiah 51:6
Revelation 6:14
2 Peter 3:10-13
Genesis 8:22
Isaiah 11:6-9
Isaiah 65:25
Genesis 2
Romans 8:19-22
1 Thessalonians 4:17-18
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We’re treading in deep water this week. First, Kline talks about the physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit in the initial creation of the invisible heavens. Kline calls that physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit “endoxation.” Next, we talk about the Holy Spirit’s role in the incarnation, and the relationship between the persons of the Trinity. Finally, we distinguish what Kline is saying from what Scott Oliphint is saying.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 10 - 15
Genesis 1:1
Colossians 1:16
Job 38:7
Genesis 1:2
Exodus
Hebrews 4
Ephesians 4
Genesis 22
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This week we begin Kline’s last book: God, Heaven and Har Magedon. Chapter one is all about heaven. First we talk about how even though heaven is currently invisible, it is not far away. Next, we talk about heaven is the temple. Finally, we talk about how we should not be focused on or satisfied with this world. We should be longing for the new heavens and the new earth.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 3 - 9
Isaiah 6
Ezekiel 1
Revelation 1
Daniel
Deuteronomy 26
Hebrews 4
Revelation 21:22
Isaiah 4:5-6
Revelation 15:8
John 3
2 Peter
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This week we try a live YouTube broadcast so that we can take listener questions live, in real time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6A6pcG2QoM
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1. Would God deliver Israel out of bondage, only to deliver them out of a covenant of works?
Acts 15:10
2. Jeff - 2 Thessalonians 2 and the man of lawlessness -
Revelation 11
Daniel 7
3. Doesn’t Kline’s Framework Interpretation mean that we don’t have to take Genesis literally?
Genesis 1-2
Hebrews 4
4. Michael - Are there any arguments for the Framework Interpretation that you struggled with, or thought were weak arguments?
5. Objection to intrusion ethics - doesn’t intrusion ethics mean that we have nothing to say to the unbelieving world?
Luke 24
John 3
6. Does Kline represent True Reformed Theology?
7. How do Klinean issues like republication or Framework help or hurt men who are pursuing ordination in various presbyteries?
8. Are Klineans silencing pastors from talking about political or social issues?
9. Tony - Was the Abrahamic covenant “A” covenant of grace that typified “THE” covenant of grace to be inaugurated in Jesus Christ’s blood?
Galatians 3:8
Genesis 12
Galatians 2-4
Romans 4-5
Hebrews 11
Genesis 3
Romans 11:16ff.
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