Meredith Kline understood and taught that the Bible is where we should expect to hear God speak. But too often we hear others claim that they have heard God speak to them. What do we make of these claims? In this episode, Todd and Chris discuss the confidence that we can and should have in Scripture as the very word of God to us. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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Structure of Biblical Authority by Meredith Kline
General revelation - creation
Special revelation - Scripture
Two objections:
Hebrews 1:1-2
John 21:18-19
John 20:29
2 Corinthians 5:6-7
Ephesians 2:20
Hebrews 2:3-4
The Idea of Biblical Theology as a Science & as a Theological Discipline by Geerhardus Vos
Genesis 3:10
Exodus 20:19
Job 40:9
Acts 9:7
Revelation 1:10
Ephesians 1:7, 11
2 Peter 1:3
Psalm 119:105
Romans 10:17
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Did you know there was a problem with the letters that Paul wrote to Timothy and Titus? Why does Paul’s focus change in those letters? Are there good answers? Meredith Kline gives us some amazing help as we consider these questions. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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1 Timothy
2 Tomthy
Titus
Ephesians 2
Ephesians 5
1 Corinthians 12
1 Corinthians 3
1 Corinthians 15
Ephesians 4
Galatians 3
1 Timothy 2
Romans 6 - 8
1 Timothy 1:19
Romans 12 - 16
Ephesians 4 - 6
Romans 6
1 Timothy 4:1
1 Corinthians 5
Structure of Biblical Authority by Meredith Kline
New Testament: An Introduction by J. Gresham Machen
1 Timothy 3
God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith Kline
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Everyone is interested in work because just about everyone has to work. What should you do for work? Why should you work? What is the purpose of work? These are just some of the questions we consider in this episode. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Genesis 1:28
Genesis 2:15
Genesis 3:18
Ecclesiastes 5:18-19
2 Peter 3:10
Colossians 3:22-24
Philippians 1:5
Ephesians 4:28
2 Thessalonians 3:12
1 Timothy 5:8
2 Thessalonians 3:10
2 Thessalonians 4:11
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In this episode, we wrap up our series on counseling and men and women. We start by talking about how gender roles have been understood throughout Church history. Then we look at some specific passages that relate to the issue of gender roles. Finally, we close by talking about the freedom we have in Christ because he has placed us beyond probation. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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Colossians 3
Luke 14:26
1 Corinthians 7:29-31
Proverbs 31
Proverbs 1:8-9
Lady Wisdom & Lady Foolishness:
Lady Wisdom 1:20-4:9
Lady Foolishness 5:1-7:27
Lady Wisdom 8:1-9:12
Lady Foolishness 9:13-18
Titus 2
1 Corinthians 6:11
Ephesians 1:3
Deuteronomy 28
Galatians 3:3-5
Acts 15:10
Matthew 23:4
Romans 14
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This week we consider what Meredith Kline’s approach to the New Covenant helps us to understand about Christian marriage. We look at classic texts like Ephesians 5. We hope this is encouraging and helpful. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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1 Timothy 2
Ephesians 5:18ff.
1 Corinthians 7
1 Peter 3:7
Romans 5:6-8
Romans 14:4
1 Corinthians 11
Titus 2
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This week we take Meredith Kline’s courageous willingness to follow the biblical text wherever it goes, and we look 1 Timothy 2:11-13. We consider most of the questions that have arisen because of this text. Is the answer egalitarianism? Complementarianism? Hopefully this is helpful for both men and women. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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Women in Church Office by Gordon P. Hugenberger
1 Timothy 2:11-13
Genesis 1
Judges 4
1 Timothy 3:14-15
Genesis 3
OPC Report of the Committee on Women in Church Office
1 Corinthians 4:6
1 Peter by Karen Jobes
Joel 2
Women in the Church, ed. Andreas Kostenberger
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This week we continue our discussion about what Meredith Kline’s theology has to say about men, women, and gender roles. We keep our focus on Kline’s eschatology, but we also engage Kline’s protology in Genesis. Hopefully this is helpful for both men and women. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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Joel 2:28-29
Galatians 3:28
1 Timothy 2
1 Corinthians 11
Genesis 1:28
Genesis 2:24
Genesis 3:16
Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden
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This week we talk about what Meredith Kline’s theology has to say about men, women, and gender roles. We will focus on Kline’s eschatology. Hopefully this is helpful for both men and women. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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1 Timothy
Minority Report of the Committee on Women in Church Office of the OPC
1 Timothy 2
Galatians 3:28-29
1 Corinthians 11:10
1 Corinthians 7:4
5th Commandment
1 Peter 3
Ephesians 5
Romans 14
Romans 15:14
Titus
Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden
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This week we talk about a particular kind of person who is attracted to Christian churches. This episode may be the least related to Meredith Kline’s theology. But Kline’s understanding of the fall certainly helps us to see how there can be narcissists and manipulators. We hope you benefit from this discussion. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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Jude
2 Timothy 3:1-5
Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden
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In this episode, we talk about a very difficult topic. If you have children younger than teenagers who listen to the podcast, this episode is probably not for them. First, we spend some time talking about a general approach to ministering to a local church on the part of pastors and elders. Next, we turn to the topic of pornography. As it turns out, what Kline taught us about the nature of the New Covenant has profound implications for helping those who struggle with pornography. We hope this is helpful to you, and we welcome your feedback.
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Colossians 1:28
Revelation 3:7-9
Romans 13:8-10
1 Corinthians 6:15-20
Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden
The Insufficiency of Scripture by T. David Gordon
Biblical Theology and Counseling by Bill Baldwin
Sanctification, Counseling & the Gospel by Bill Baldwin
Meredith Kline DID mention nouthetic counseling!
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Though we are not talking specifically about nouthetic counseling this week, we are talking about what Meredith Kline’s biblical theology might have to say to us about how we should counsel people in our churches. First we talk about verbal and non verbal ways of helping each other. Then we talk about some general principles of love, grace, and care. We hope you benefit from this discussion. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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James 5:17
Colossians 3:13
Ephesians 4:32
1 Thessalonians 5:11
Colossians 3:16
Ephesians 4:25
Romans 15:14
Romans 16:25
Galatians 6:1
Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden
1 Timothy 1:5
2 Timothy 4:9-11
Luke 13:1-3
Ecclesiastes 5
Commentary on Job by Meredith G. Kline
Lamentations 3:38
The Insufficiency of Scripture by T. David Gordon
Biblical Theology and Counseling by Bill Baldwin
Sanctification, Counseling & the Gospel by Bill Baldwin
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Staying with our Meredith Kline Applied series, we start a new section on counseling. This week we critique nouthetic counseling. The main reason for this is it was the counseling model that we were taught in seminary. It is also a popular model in Reformed churches. However, we also critique other counseling models as well. We hope you benefit from this discussion. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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The Insufficiency of Scripture by T. David Gordon
Biblical Theology and Counseling by Bill Baldwin
Sanctification, Counseling & the Gospel by Bill Baldwin
Meredith Kline DID mention nouthetic counseling!
Ecclesiastes
Jeremiah 17:9
Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden
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This week we wrap up our discussion of Todd’s article Two Kingdoms & The Spirituality of the Church. We address some specific and well-known objections to Kline’s distinction between the covenant of grace, and the covenant of common grace. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!
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Two Kingdoms & The Spirituality of the Church by Todd Bordow
Psalm 2
Romans 9:4
Critique of Theonomy: A Taxonomy by T. David Gordon
Romans 1
Institutes of the Christian Religion 4.20.14 by John Calvin
Genesis 9
John 6
Luke 12:14
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This week we continue the Meredith Kline Applied series with a discussion of Todd’s article Two Kingdoms & The Spirituality of the Church. If medical missions didn’t seem to directly affect your life, the things that we discuss in this episode will. Please give this episode a listen, tell someone you know about the podcast, and let us know what you think!
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Two Kingdoms & The Spirituality of the Church by Todd Bordow
John 3
John 18:36
Westminster Confession of Faith 31.4 (OPC)
Revelation 13
Psalm 147:16-17
Luke 12
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We start our new series: Meredith Kline Applied. Part 1 of this new series is our discussion of the Minority Report of the Committee on Foreign Missions of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, authored by Meredith Kline and Paul Wooley. We discuss whether it is fair to frame the question around whether the Christian ought to care for both body and soul. Next, we discuss the significance of Jesus’ miraculous healings. Then we talk about whether the gifting of individual Christians matter for deciding whether to have medical missions. Finally, we discuss Sola Scriptura and who has authority over medical missionaries.
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Minority Report: Committee on Foreign Missions by Paul Wooley and Meredith Kline
Acts 6
Hebrews 2
The Coming of the Kingdom by Herman Ridderbos
Acts 3
James 5
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In this episode, we discuss Appendix A from God, Heaven and Har Magedon: Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony. This is Kline’s most mature thinking about the Framework Interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2. First we talk about the biblical distinction between the upper and lower registers. Next, we discuss the thematic arrangement of the days of Genesis 1. Finally, we discuss how Genesis 2:5-7 teaches that God’s ordinary providence was at work in the days of creation.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 223 - 250
Space & Time in the Genesis Cosmogony by M. G. Kline
Introduction to the Framework Interpretation
Genesis 1
Psalm 102:2-4
Genesis 1:1
Colossians 1:16
Job 38:7
Genesis 1:2
Genesis 1:3 - 2:3
Genesis 2
Psalm 19
Hebrews 4
Exodus 20:11
Genesis 2:4
Genesis 5:1
Genesis 2:5-7
Job 36
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This week we finish the last chapter of the book. First we talk about how the catharsis-cleansing from last week’s episode will set the stage for God filling the New Heavens and the New Earth. Next, we look at Christ’s role as the mediator of that filling. Finally, we talk about how God gives all this to us freely.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 214 - 222
Revelation 22
Daniel 2:35
Revelation 7
Romans 11
Ephesians 1
Revelation 21:3
Isaiah 4:5
Genesis 1
Revelation 1:4-5
John 14
Revelation 3:21
John 17:11, 22
Ephesians 1:11
Isaiah 55:1-2
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This week we look at the ultimate fulfillment of the Canaanite conquest. When Israel killed every living thing in Canaan, it was a miniature picture of what will happen in the final conflict between Satan and unbelievers on the one hand, and Jesus and believers on the other hand. We also talk about how this wiping out of unbelievers at the Final Judgment is the end of common grace.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 208 - 214
Episode 26 - Apologetics & the Canaanite Conquest
2 Thessalonians
Revelation
Genesis 9
2 Peter
Haggai
Daniel 2
Daniel 7
Revelation 21
Revelation 20
Isaiah
Romans 8
Job 16:18
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This week we look at the biblical-theological theme of Har Magedon Gatherings. First we look at some Old Testament types. Next, we look at references to the ultimate Har Magedon gathering in the gospels. Finally we look at what this gathering means for those who do not trust Christ.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 199 - 208
Hebrews 12
Revelation 20
Revelation 14
Matthew 14
Leviticus
Numbers
Revelation 19
Zechariah 9
1 Corinthians 6
Revelation 2
Genesis 6:5
Zechariah 9 and 14
Ezekiel 38 and 39
Daniel 11
2 Thessalonians 2
Revelation 16, 19 and 20
Daniel 7
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This week Todd and Chris discuss Kline’s most mature exegesis regarding the Sabbath. First, we talk about the connection between the Sabbath and Judgment Day. Next, we talk about the symbol of the Sabbath. After that, we talk about the idea of “The Lord’s Day.” Finally, we talk about Kline’s proposal for what to call the Christian day of worship.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 187 - 198
Genesis 3:8
Deuteronomy 5:15
Genesis 2
Exodus 16
Acts 15
Revelation 1:10
2 Peter 3:7-13
Romans 14:5
Colossians 2:16-19
Hebrews 3 & 4
Ephesians 1
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We are back to God, Heaven and Har Magedon! First we discuss how the final assault of Antichrist on Har Magedon can be seen in OT types and shadows. Next we look at how the Antichrist crisis is described in Revelation. Finally, Todd asks Chris tough questions. You don’t want to miss it!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 1179 - 186
Revelation 11:9
Revelation 20:3
Revelation 17:10
Revelation 17:12
Revelation 20:3-7
Revelation 11
2 Thessalonians 2
Revelation 13
2 Thessalonians 2:9
Ezekiel 38:2-6
Revelation 12
The Book of Revelation by Greg Beale
Triumph of the Lamb by Dennis Johnson
Ezekiel 39
Revelation 19
Revelation 20
Chiasm:
a. Rev. 12:9 - Dragon
b. Rev. 13:14 - the Beast wages war
c. Rev. 16:13-16 - Dragon, Beast, false prophet
d. Rev. 19:19-20 - Beast and false prophet
e. Rev. 20:7-10 - Dragon
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This week we take a break from God, Heaven, and Har Magedon in order to talk to Dr. Bryan Estelle of Westminster Seminary California about his book Echoes of Exodus: Tracing a Biblical Motif. This book has something for everyone. Pour a cup of coffee and enjoy this conversation!
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Echoes of Exodus by Bryan Estelle
Genesis 3:15-21ff.
Galatians 4:4-5
Psalm 23
Deuteronomy 28
Luke 4
Luke 9
Revelation
Isaiah 43
Revelation 21
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If you started out your Christian life in churches like Todd and Chris did, you probably got a heavy dose of dispensational premillennialism. In this episode, we compare and contrast premillennialism, postmillennialism, and amillennialism. First we talk about the way the Old Testament prophets talked about the millennial period. Next, we talk about how the book of Revelation talks about the same period of time. Finally we talk about how the real question is: When does the Kingdom come in power and glory?
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 164 - 179
Daniel 9
Daniel 7
2 Corinthians 3:12
Daniel 12
Daniel 2
Revelation 11
Revelation 13
1 Peter
Matthew
Revelation 20
2 Thessalonians 2:6-7
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Much of Jesus’s life and ministry took place on mountains - and yet he avoided Jerusalem. When Jesus underwent his wilderness temptation as the Last Adam, he defeated Satan. Now Satan is bound so that he cannot stop the spread of the gospel around the whole world. Download, listen, and tell your friends!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 156 - 165
Matthew 28:16
Revelation 12
Genesis 3
Psalm 2
Revelation 19
Isaiah 14
Hebrews 2:14
John 12:31
Revelation 20
Isaiah 49:24-25
Matthew 12:29
Matthew 28:18-20
Exodus 20
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Daniel chapters 2 and 9 are the focus of this week’s episode. First, in Daniel 2, there are two mountains: Israel is the mountain that cuts into the world power, and another mountain that crushes all world powers. Next, Daniel 9 is about God’s promise that within 70 weeks of Israel’s captivity, God would send the Messiah and ultimately save his people. Finally we talk about how the Jubilee is the key, and how Jesus is one who guarantees the ultimate salvation.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 145 - 154
Daniel 2
Isaiah 2:2
Daniel 9
Isaiah 10
Matthew 1
Revelation 19
Psalms
Genesis 9
Matthew 24
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