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Apr 10, 2020

Meredith Kline understood and taught that the Bible is where we should expect to hear God speak.  But too often we hear others claim that they have heard God speak to them.  What do we make of these claims?  In this episode, Todd and Chris discuss the confidence that we can and should have in Scripture as the very word of God to us.  Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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Structure of Biblical Authority by Meredith Kline

General revelation - creation

Special revelation - Scripture

Two objections:

  1. Your God has changed
  2. God is distant

Hebrews 1:1-2

John 21:18-19

John 20:29

2 Corinthians 5:6-7

Ephesians 2:20

Hebrews 2:3-4

The Idea of Biblical Theology as a Science & as a Theological Discipline by Geerhardus Vos

Genesis 3:10

Exodus 20:19

Job 40:9

Acts 9:7

Revelation 1:10

Ephesians 1:7, 11

2 Peter 1:3

Psalm 119:105

Romans 10:17

 

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Apr 3, 2020

Did you know there was a problem with the letters that Paul wrote to Timothy and Titus?  Why does Paul’s focus change in those letters?  Are there good answers?  Meredith Kline gives us some amazing help as we consider these questions.  Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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1 Timothy

2 Tomthy

Titus

Ephesians 2

Ephesians 5

1 Corinthians 12

1 Corinthians 3

1 Corinthians 15

Ephesians 4

Galatians 3

1 Timothy 2

Romans 6 - 8

1 Timothy 1:19

Romans 12 - 16

Ephesians 4 - 6

Romans 6

1 Timothy 4:1

1 Corinthians 5

Structure of Biblical Authority by Meredith Kline

New Testament: An Introduction by J. Gresham Machen

1 Timothy 3

God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith Kline

 

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Mar 27, 2020

Everyone is interested in work because just about everyone has to work.  What should you do for work?  Why should you work?  What is the purpose of work?  These are just some of the questions we consider in this episode.  Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline

Genesis 1:28

Genesis 2:15

Genesis 3:18

Ecclesiastes 5:18-19

2 Peter 3:10

Colossians 3:22-24

Philippians 1:5

Ephesians 4:28

2 Thessalonians 3:12

1 Timothy 5:8

2 Thessalonians 3:10

2 Thessalonians 4:11

 

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Mar 20, 2020

In this episode, we wrap up our series on counseling and men and women.  We start by talking about how gender roles have been understood throughout Church history.  Then we look at some specific passages that relate to the issue of gender roles.  Finally, we close by talking about the freedom we have in Christ because he has placed us beyond probation.  Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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Colossians 3

Luke 14:26

1 Corinthians 7:29-31

Proverbs 31

Proverbs 1:8-9

Lady Wisdom & Lady Foolishness:

Lady Wisdom 1:20-4:9

Lady Foolishness 5:1-7:27

Lady Wisdom 8:1-9:12

Lady Foolishness 9:13-18

Titus 2

1 Corinthians 6:11

Ephesians 1:3

Deuteronomy 28

Galatians 3:3-5

Acts 15:10

Matthew 23:4

Romans 14

 

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Mar 13, 2020

This week we consider what Meredith Kline’s approach to the New Covenant helps us to understand about Christian marriage.  We look at classic texts like Ephesians 5.  We hope this is encouraging and helpful.  Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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1 Timothy 2

Ephesians 5:18ff.

1 Corinthians 7

1 Peter 3:7

Romans 5:6-8

Romans 14:4

1 Corinthians 11

Titus 2

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Mar 6, 2020

This week we take Meredith Kline’s courageous willingness to follow the biblical text wherever it goes, and we look 1 Timothy 2:11-13.  We consider most of the questions that have arisen because of this text.  Is the answer egalitarianism?  Complementarianism?  Hopefully this is helpful for both men and women.  Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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Women in Church Office by Gordon P. Hugenberger

1 Timothy 2:11-13

Genesis 1

Judges 4

1 Timothy 3:14-15

Genesis 3

OPC Report of the Committee on Women in Church Office

1 Corinthians 4:6

1 Peter by Karen Jobes

Joel 2

Women in the Church, ed. Andreas Kostenberger

 

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Feb 28, 2020

This week we continue our discussion about what Meredith Kline’s theology has to say about men, women, and gender roles.  We keep our focus on Kline’s eschatology, but we also engage Kline’s protology in Genesis.  Hopefully this is helpful for both men and women.  Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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Joel 2:28-29

Galatians 3:28

1 Timothy 2

1 Corinthians 11

Genesis 1:28

Genesis 2:24

Genesis 3:16

Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden

 

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Feb 21, 2020

This week we talk about what Meredith Kline’s theology has to say about men, women, and gender roles.  We will focus on Kline’s eschatology.  Hopefully this is helpful for both men and women.  Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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1 Timothy

Minority Report of the Committee on Women in Church Office of the OPC

1 Timothy 2

Galatians 3:28-29

1 Corinthians 11:10

1 Corinthians 7:4

5th Commandment

1 Peter 3

Ephesians 5

Romans 14

Romans 15:14

Titus
Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden

 

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Feb 14, 2020

This week we talk about a particular kind of person who is attracted to Christian churches.  This episode may be the least related to Meredith Kline’s theology.  But Kline’s understanding of the fall certainly helps us to see how there can be narcissists and manipulators.  We hope you benefit from this discussion. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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Jude

2 Timothy 3:1-5


Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden

 

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Feb 7, 2020

In this episode, we talk about a very difficult topic.  If you have children younger than teenagers who listen to the podcast, this episode is probably not for them.  First, we spend some time talking about a general approach to ministering to a local church on the part of pastors and elders.  Next, we turn to the topic of pornography.  As it turns out, what Kline taught us about the nature of the New Covenant has profound implications for helping those who struggle with pornography.  We hope this is helpful to you, and we welcome your feedback.

 

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Colossians 1:28

Revelation 3:7-9

Romans 13:8-10

1 Corinthians 6:15-20
Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden

The Insufficiency of Scripture by T. David Gordon

Biblical Theology and Counseling by Bill Baldwin

Sanctification, Counseling & the Gospel by Bill Baldwin

Meredith Kline DID mention nouthetic counseling!

 

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Jan 31, 2020

Though we are not talking specifically about nouthetic counseling this week, we are talking about what Meredith Kline’s biblical theology might have to say to us about how we should counsel people in our churches.  First we talk about verbal and non verbal ways of helping each other.  Then we talk about some general principles of love, grace, and care.  We hope you benefit from this discussion. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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James 5:17

Colossians 3:13

Ephesians 4:32

1 Thessalonians 5:11

Colossians 3:16

Ephesians 4:25

Romans 15:14

Romans 16:25

Galatians 6:1

Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden

1 Timothy 1:5

2 Timothy 4:9-11

Luke 13:1-3

Ecclesiastes 5

Commentary on Job by Meredith G. Kline

Lamentations 3:38

The Insufficiency of Scripture by T. David Gordon

Biblical Theology and Counseling by Bill Baldwin

Sanctification, Counseling & the Gospel by Bill Baldwin

Meredith Kline DID mention nouthetic counseling!

 

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Jan 24, 2020

Staying with our Meredith Kline Applied series, we start a new section on counseling.  This week we critique nouthetic counseling.  The main reason for this is it was the counseling model that we were taught in seminary.  It is also a popular model in Reformed churches.  However, we also critique other counseling models as well.  We hope you benefit from this discussion. Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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The Insufficiency of Scripture by T. David Gordon

Biblical Theology and Counseling by Bill Baldwin

Sanctification, Counseling & the Gospel by Bill Baldwin

Meredith Kline DID mention nouthetic counseling!

Ecclesiastes

Jeremiah 17:9

Classical Pastoral Care: Pastoral Counsel by Thomas Oden

 

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Jan 17, 2020

This week we wrap up our discussion of Todd’s article Two Kingdoms & The Spirituality of the Church.  We address some specific and well-known objections to Kline’s distinction between the covenant of grace, and the covenant of common grace.  Please listen, tell others, and let us know what you think!

 

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Two Kingdoms & The Spirituality of the Church by Todd Bordow

Psalm 2

Romans 9:4

Critique of Theonomy: A Taxonomy by T. David Gordon

Romans 1

Institutes of the Christian Religion 4.20.14 by John Calvin

Genesis 9

John 6

Luke 12:14

 

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Jan 10, 2020

This week we continue the Meredith Kline Applied series with a discussion of Todd’s article Two Kingdoms & The Spirituality of the Church.  If medical missions didn’t seem to directly affect your life, the things that we discuss in this episode will.  Please give this episode a listen, tell someone you know about the podcast, and let us know what you think!

 

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Two Kingdoms & The Spirituality of the Church by Todd Bordow

John 3

John 18:36

Westminster Confession of Faith 31.4 (OPC)

Revelation 13

Psalm 147:16-17

Luke 12

 

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Jan 3, 2020

We start our new series: Meredith Kline Applied.  Part 1 of this new series is our discussion of the Minority Report of the Committee on Foreign Missions of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, authored by Meredith Kline and Paul Wooley.  We discuss whether it is fair to frame the question around whether the Christian ought to care for both body and soul.  Next, we discuss the significance of Jesus’ miraculous healings.  Then we talk about whether the gifting of individual Christians matter for deciding whether to have medical missions.  Finally, we discuss Sola Scriptura and who has authority over medical missionaries.

 

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Minority Report: Committee on Foreign Missions by Paul Wooley and Meredith Kline

Acts 6

Hebrews 2

The Coming of the Kingdom by Herman Ridderbos

Acts 3

James 5

 

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Dec 3, 2019

In this episode, we discuss Appendix A from God, Heaven and Har Magedon: Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony.  This is Kline’s most mature thinking about the Framework Interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2.  First we talk about the biblical distinction between the upper and lower registers.  Next, we discuss the thematic arrangement of the days of Genesis 1.  Finally, we discuss how Genesis 2:5-7 teaches that God’s ordinary providence was at work in the days of creation.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 223 - 250

Space & Time in the Genesis Cosmogony by M. G. Kline

Introduction to the Framework Interpretation

Genesis 1

Psalm 102:2-4

Genesis 1:1

Colossians 1:16

Job 38:7

Genesis 1:2

Genesis 1:3 - 2:3

Genesis 2

Psalm 19

Hebrews 4

Exodus 20:11

Genesis 2:4

Genesis 5:1

Genesis 2:5-7

Job 36

 

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Nov 29, 2019

This week we finish the last chapter of the book.  First we talk about how the catharsis-cleansing from last week’s episode will set the stage for God filling the New Heavens and the New Earth.  Next, we look at Christ’s role as the mediator of that filling.  Finally, we talk about how God gives all this to us freely. 

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 214 - 222

Revelation 22

Daniel 2:35

Revelation 7

Romans 11

Ephesians 1

Revelation 21:3

Isaiah 4:5

Genesis 1

Revelation 1:4-5

John 14

Revelation 3:21

John 17:11, 22

Ephesians 1:11

Isaiah 55:1-2

 

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Nov 22, 2019

This week we look at the ultimate fulfillment of the Canaanite conquest.  When Israel killed every living thing in Canaan, it was a miniature picture of what will happen in the final conflict between Satan and unbelievers on the one hand, and Jesus and believers on the other hand.  We also talk about how this wiping out of unbelievers at the Final Judgment is the end of common grace. 

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 208 - 214

Episode 26 - Apologetics & the Canaanite Conquest

2 Thessalonians

Revelation

Genesis 9

2 Peter

Haggai

Daniel 2

Daniel 7

Revelation 21

Revelation 20

Isaiah

Romans 8

Job 16:18

 

 

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Nov 15, 2019

This week we look at the biblical-theological theme of Har Magedon Gatherings.  First we look at some Old Testament types.  Next, we look at references to the ultimate Har Magedon gathering in the gospels.  Finally we look at what this gathering means for those who do not trust Christ.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 199 - 208

Hebrews 12

Revelation 20

Revelation 14

Matthew 14

Leviticus

Numbers

Revelation 19

Zechariah 9

1 Corinthians 6

Revelation 2

Genesis 6:5

Zechariah 9 and 14

Ezekiel 38 and 39

Daniel 11

2 Thessalonians 2

Revelation 16, 19 and 20

Daniel 7

 

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Nov 8, 2019

This week Todd and Chris discuss Kline’s most mature exegesis regarding the Sabbath.  First, we talk about the connection between the Sabbath and Judgment Day.  Next, we talk about the symbol of the Sabbath.  After that, we talk about the idea of “The Lord’s Day.”  Finally, we talk about Kline’s proposal for what to call the Christian day of worship.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 187 - 198

Genesis 3:8

Deuteronomy 5:15

Genesis 2

Exodus 16

Acts 15

Revelation 1:10

2 Peter 3:7-13

Romans 14:5

Colossians 2:16-19

Hebrews 3 & 4

Ephesians 1

 

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Nov 1, 2019

We are back to God, Heaven and Har Magedon!  First we discuss how the final assault of Antichrist on Har Magedon can be seen in OT types and shadows.  Next we look at how the Antichrist crisis is described in Revelation.  Finally, Todd asks Chris tough questions.  You don’t want to miss it!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 1179 - 186

Revelation 11:9

Revelation 20:3

Revelation 17:10

Revelation 17:12

Revelation 20:3-7

Revelation 11

2 Thessalonians 2

Revelation 13

2 Thessalonians 2:9

Ezekiel 38:2-6

Revelation 12

The Book of Revelation by Greg Beale

Triumph of the Lamb by Dennis Johnson

Ezekiel 39

Revelation 19

Revelation 20

Chiasm:

a. Rev. 12:9 - Dragon

     b. Rev. 13:14 - the Beast wages war

          c. Rev. 16:13-16 - Dragon, Beast, false prophet

     d. Rev. 19:19-20 - Beast and false prophet

e. Rev. 20:7-10 - Dragon

 

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Oct 25, 2019

This week we take a break from God, Heaven, and Har Magedon in order to talk to Dr. Bryan Estelle of Westminster Seminary California about his book Echoes of Exodus: Tracing a Biblical Motif.  This book has something for everyone.  Pour a cup of coffee and enjoy this conversation!

 

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Echoes of Exodus by Bryan Estelle

Genesis 3:15-21ff.

Galatians 4:4-5

Psalm 23

Deuteronomy 28

Luke 4

Luke 9

Revelation

Isaiah 43

Revelation 21

 

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Oct 18, 2019

If you started out your Christian life in churches like Todd and Chris did, you probably got a heavy dose of dispensational premillennialism.  In this episode, we compare and contrast premillennialism, postmillennialism, and amillennialism.  First we talk about the way the Old Testament prophets talked about the millennial period.  Next, we talk about how the book of Revelation talks about the same period of time.  Finally we talk about how the real question is: When does the Kingdom come in power and glory?

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 164 - 179

Daniel 9

Daniel 7

2 Corinthians 3:12

Daniel 12

Daniel 2

Revelation 11

Revelation 13

1 Peter

Matthew

Revelation 20

2 Thessalonians 2:6-7

 

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Oct 11, 2019

Much of Jesus’s life and ministry took place on mountains - and yet he avoided Jerusalem.  When Jesus underwent his wilderness temptation as the Last Adam, he defeated Satan.  Now Satan is bound so that he cannot stop the spread of the gospel around the whole world.  Download, listen, and tell your friends!

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 156 - 165

Matthew 28:16

Revelation 12

Genesis 3

Psalm 2

Revelation 19

Isaiah 14

Hebrews 2:14

John 12:31

Revelation 20

Isaiah 49:24-25

Matthew 12:29

Matthew 28:18-20

Exodus 20

 

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Oct 4, 2019

Daniel chapters 2 and 9 are the focus of this week’s episode.  First, in Daniel 2, there are two mountains: Israel is the mountain that cuts into the world power, and another mountain that crushes all world powers.  Next, Daniel 9 is about God’s promise that within 70 weeks of Israel’s captivity, God would send the Messiah and ultimately save his people.  Finally we talk about how the Jubilee is the key, and how Jesus is one who guarantees the ultimate salvation.

 

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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline

God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 145 - 154

Daniel 2

Isaiah 2:2

Daniel 9

Isaiah 10

Matthew 1

Revelation 19

Psalms

Genesis 9

Matthew 24

 

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