The Glory-Cloud Podcast

This podcast promotes the Christ-centered covenantal biblical theology of Meredith Kline.
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Dec 30, 2016

This week, Chris and Lee are taking a week off.  But we still want to bring you high quality biblical-theological content.  So we’ve selected this lecture by Meredith G. Kline from his Pentateuch class at Westminster Seminary California because it was one of the few lectures we could think of where he specifically mentioned the incarnation.  And that seems appropriate at this time of year.  We hope you enjoy hearing directly from Meredith G. Kline!

Show Notes:

Gap Theory

Bruce Waltke

Framework view

Genesis 1

Genesis 1:1

Genesis 1:3ff.

Genesis 2:1-3

Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony

Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony Audio

Genesis 1:2

Deuteronomy 32:10-11


Isaiah 6



Psalm 11

Day-Age view

Proverbs 8:22-23

Hebrews 4

Exodus 20:11

Meredith G. Kline Pentateuch 13 (video from YouTube)

Dec 23, 2016

In this episode, Chris Caughey talks with Lutheran pastor Jordan Cooper about the influence Meredith Kline’s books had on him while he was still Reformed – and how they continue to influence him today.  Part of what makes this conversation so interesting is the “language barrier” that exists in the way that different theological traditions use theological language.  But Chris and Jordan handle the communication and translation respectfully. 

Show Notes:

Faith Lutheran Church Watseka, Illinois

Just and Sinner Podcast on iTunes

The Righteousness of One


The Great Divide

Baptized Into Christ

Hands of Faith

The Upper-Register website

Genesis 15

Galatians 3

Deuteronomy 28

Galatians 3:18

Just and Sinner blog

Jordan Cooper’s Amazon author page

Jordan Cooper on Facebook

Jordan Cooper on Twitter

Jordan Cooper on YouTube

Dec 16, 2016

In episode 17, Lee and Chris interview Rev. Michael Brown and Rev. Zach Keele about the book they co-authored, entitled Sacred Bond: Covenant Theology Explored.  They have some very helpful ways of explaining the covenants that God made, how we fit into God’s covenant drama, and how the covenants relate to justification for our assurance. 

Show notes:

Sacred Bond: Covenant Theology

Genesis 1-3

Isaiah 24


The Covenant of Redemption

The Covenant of Works

The Covenant of Grace

The Covenant of Common Grace

The Abrahamic Covenant

The Mosaic Covenant

The Davidic Covenant

The New Covenant

Sacred Bond, pages 92-95

Genesis 15

Two-level fulfillment

Romans 4

Hebrews 11

Genesis 9

Deuteronomy 28

Leviticus 26

Sacred Bond, page 114

Deuteronomy 30:1

Deuteronomy 32


Romans 8

Rev. Michael Brown’s church website

Rev. Michael Brown on Twitter

Rev. Zach Keele’s church website

Sacred Bond Facebook page

Dec 9, 2016

In episode 16, Lee and Chris discuss chapter 4 of By Oath Consigned.  They walk through the various biblical evidence that Kline marshalled for seeing both blessing and curse sanctions in the baptism of John the Baptist.


Show notes:


By Oath Consigned

Matthew 3:11-12

Jeremiah 7

Malachi 1:6

Matthew 21:33ff.

Matthew 21:28-32

Malachi 4:23

Isaiah 5

Malachi 3:1ff.

Malachi 4:23-24

Matthew 3:7-10

Mark 1:4

By Oath Consigned, page 57

By Oath Consigned, page 55

Numbers 5

1 Corinthians 10:1-2

1 Peter 3:18-21

Luke 12:50

Mark 10:38

Psalm 69

Jonah 2:1-2

Matthew 12:40

Isaiah 51:9-10

Psalm 74 and 89

Revelation 12:9

Genesis 3:15

By Oath Consigned, pages 61 and 62

Genesis 15

Isaiah 43:1-2

John 5:24

Dec 2, 2016

In episode 15, Lee and Chris discuss chapter 3 of By Oath Consigned in which Meredith Kline looks at the biblical theological significance of circumcision.  He argues that it is a sign of judgment – but that can be either redemptive judgment or penal judgment.  Listen to find out more about the rich theology of the sacrament of circumcision.


Show Notes:


By Oath Consigned

Genesis 17:1-14

By Oath Consigned, page 41

Genesis 15

Deuteronomy 29:10-12, 14

Exodus 4:24

Joshua 5:2ff.

By Oath Consigned, page 44

Genesis 22

Colossians 2:8-15

By Oath Consigned, page 45

Genesis 3:24

Genesis 13 – Canaan like the garden of the Lord

Genesis 3:24 and Joshua 5:13-15

Isaiah 53:8

By Oath Consigned, page 46

The gospel of circumcision


By Oath Consigned, page 47

Romans 4:11

Romans 2:25-29

Deuteronomy 10:16

Jeremiah 4:4

Philippians 3:3

By Oath Consigned, page 48

Genesis 3:15

Comments on A.A. Hodge’s One-Covenant Construction

Comments on A.A. Hodge’s One-Covenant Construction Audio

By Oath Consigned, page 49


Romans 3:21-26, 31

By Oath Consigned, page 49

Zechariah 13:7-8

Matthew 26 and Mark 14

Glory in Our Midst

Nov 25, 2016

In episode 14, Lee and Chris discuss chapter 2 of Meredith Kline’s book, By Oath Consigned.  In Chapter 2, Kline is still laying the theological foundation for his analysis of the sacraments of circumcision and baptism.  This chapter is called “Law Covenant,” and it gives the reader some significant insight into some theological themes that remained near and dear to Kline’s heart throughout his entire academic career.


Show Notes:


By Oath Consigned

By Oath Consigned pages 28-29

Law Covenant

Law Covenant Audio

By Oath Consigned page 27

Semantics of Biblical Language by James Barr

Genesis 3:15

Isaiah 43:1, 14-15

Genesis 9:1

Genesis 1

Romans 5:14

1 Corinthians 15:45

Galatians 3:19

Romans 5:20

Gospel Until the Law

Gospel Until the Law Audio

1 Corinthians 15:42-50

Genesis 1 and 2

By Oath Consigned page 30

Romans 3:26

Romans 3:31

Romans 5:18-21

Hauptgebot = the primary stipulation or highest demand = exclusive loyalty to the suzerain

Matthew 4:10

By Oath Consigned pages 31-33

By Oath Consigned page 35

Retractions: pages 32, 35, 36

Comments on A.A. Hodge’s One-Covenant Construction

Comments on A.A. Hodge’s One-Covenant Construction Audio

No grace before the fall

Westminster Confession of Faith 7.1

Covenant administration is Kingdom administration (BOC page 36)

Nov 18, 2016

Only one week into our new series where we work through By Oath Consigned, and we’re already taking a break – but we think you’ll understand why.  We are excited to have the opportunity to interview Jonathan Kline about his grandfather’s commentary – Genesis: A New Commentary – which was just recently published by Hendrickson Publishers.  He has insight into this commentary that no one else will have.  Also – notice how easy it is for him to rattle off the Hebrew – almost as if it were his first language.  That definitely seems to be a trait of the Klines.  Have a listen, and be sure to get a copy of the commentary as well as all of the other exciting resources listed in the show notes!


Show Notes:


Genesis: A New Commentary

Kingdom Prologue

God, Heaven and Har Magedon

Genesis chapters 1 – 15

“Divine Kingship and Genesis 6:1-4”

Divine Kingship and Genesis 6:1-4 Audio

Allusive Soundplay in the Hebrew Bible

Biblical Aramaic: A Reader and Handbook

Jonathan Kline on

The Essential Writings of Meredith G. Kline (coming in Fall 2017!)

Nov 11, 2016

In episode 12, Lee and Chris begin a series of episodes that will explore Meredith Kline’s second book By Oath Consigned: A Reinterpretation of the Covenant Signs of Circumcision and Baptism.  In this first episode in the series, they cover Chapter 1: Oath and Covenant.  Let us know what you think!


Show Notes:


By Oath Consigned: A Reinterpretation of the Covenant Signs of Circumcision and Baptism

“Law Covenant” (1964)

Law Covenant Audio

“Oath and Ordeal Signs I” (1964)

Oath and Ordeal Signs I Audio

“Oath and Ordeal Signs II” (1965)

Oath and Ordeal Signs II Audio

Third Use of the Law

Christ’s satisfaction of the law

There is a comprehensive usage of the term covenant, a usage to be found in Scripture

Walther Eichrodt: a twofold analysis

Other orthodox theologians: one-sided formulations

Genesis 3:15

Genesis 15

Genesis 17

Two types of covenants in Scripture: law covenants and promise covenants

The oath – and who swears the oath – is the key

Exodus 24

Psalm 50:5

Hebrews 9:18-20

Deuteronomy 29:10

Deuteronomy 32:39ff.

Deuteronomy 27 and 28

Joshua 24

Galatians 3:12, 15-18

Ordo salutis (order of salvation in the Holy Spirit’s application of Christ’s work to us)

Historia salutis (historical unfolding of God’s redemptive plan)

Galatians 4

Nov 4, 2016

In this episode, Chris and Lee trace the revelation of the covenant of common grace from Genesis to the New Testament.  Family, state and culture are covered as institutions belonging to this period of the delay of final judgment.  Listen to find out why this particular covenant is so important to you, how you understand the world, and how you relate to unbelievers.  See if you can catch the reference to the republication controversy!


Show Notes:


The “common” in “common grace” is shared between believers and unbelievers

Genesis 1 - 2

Genesis 3:8

“The cool of the day” – ruach hayyom – “The Spirit of the Day”

Genesis 3:14-19

Genesis 2:15-17

Genesis 3:19

Genesis 4:8-16

“The Oracular Origin of the State”

The Oracular Origin of the State Audio

Genesis 4:17

Genesis 8:20-9:17

Acts 10:9-33

Jeremiah 29

Oct 28, 2016

Show Notes:


Treaty of the Great King

Hittite treaties

Korosec published the treaties in 1931

George Mendenhall – Law and Covenant in Israel and the Ancient Near East (1955)

D. J. Wiseman – The Vassal-Treaties of Esarhaddon (1958)



Exodus 19:1-24

Deuteronomy 5

Treaty of the Great King, p. 28

  1. Preamble – Deuteronomy 1:1-5
  2. Historical Prologue – Deuteronomy 1:6 – 4:49
  3. Stipulations – Deuteronomy chapters 5 – 26

Primary stipulation of exclusive loyalty – Deuteronomy 5 – 11

Specific, ancillary stipulations – Deuteronomy 12 – 26

  1. Sanctions – Deuteronomy 27 – 30
  2. Dynastic succession – Deuteronomy 31 – 34

Deuteronomy 30:1-10 and 11-13

Romans 10

“The Two Tables of the Covenant”

The Two Tables of the Covenant Audio

“Dynastic Covenant”
Dynastic Covenant Audio

Deuteronomy 4:13

Treaty of the Great King, p. 17

Exodus 20

Deuteronomy 5

Exodus 31:18

Exodus 34:28

By Oath Consigned

Treaty of the Great King, pp. 22-23, 129

Genesis 3:15

Treaty of the Great King, pp. 38-39

Biblical Theology, p. 127

Deuteronomy 27 and 28

Treaty of the Great King, pp. 124-125

Kingdom Prologue pp. 302-320

Oct 21, 2016

Now that the creation wars seem to have died down a bit, we thought that it would be interesting to revisit the subject of the Framework Interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2.  Now that we don’t have to play defense as much, it seemed like a good time to give a positive presentation of the benefits of the Framework Interpretation, and to situate creation in the grand story that the Bible tells.  To do this, we invited a special guest, our friend, Bill Baldwin to join us for the discussion.  This episode is a little longer than most, but we think it’s well worth it.


Show Notes:


Genesis 1 and 2

Arie Noordzij

Wikipedia article about the Framework Interpretation

Hebrews 3 and 4

Hebrews 4:4

Genesis 2:5

Genesis 1:1-2:3

Because It Had Not Rained” by Meredith Kline

“Because It Had Not Rained” Audio

John 5:17

2 Peter 3:8

upper register

lower register


Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony” by Meredith Kline

“Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony” Audio

The Genesis Debate, edited by David Hagopian

1 Kings 6

Exodus 20

Exodus 31;17

Genesis 2:7

The Day of the Lord

Hosea 6:1-2

Jeremiah 18

Romans 9

Bill Baldwin’s blog

Oct 14, 2016

Even though Meredith Kline invented new words at times, it is important to pause from time to time and take note of the fact that he was not the first one to say certain things.  One seventeenth-century pastor-theologian who understood the Mosaic covenant very similarly to Meredith Kline was the English puritan Samuel Petto.  Pastor Mike Brown of Christ United Reformed Church in Santee, CA was kind enough to come on the show and talk to Chris and Lee about the book that he has written about Petto, Petto’s view of the Mosaic covenant, and Petto’s pastoral use of his covenant theology for the comfort and assurance of believers.  It was a privilege to talk to him, and we’re sure you’ll agree that it is a privilege to listen to him.


Show Notes:


Christ and the Condition: The Covenant Theology of Samuel Petto (1624 – 1711)

Sacred Bond: Covenant Theology Explored

The Great Mystery of the Covenant of Grace

Infant Baptism of Christ’s Appointment (Google Books)

Three Covenant Superstructure:

Covenant of Redemption

Covenant of Works

Covenant of Grace

The Economy of the Covenants Between God and Man by Herman Witsius

The Economy of the Covenants Between God and Man (Google Books)

Genesis 3:15

Leviticus 18:5

Galatians 3

The True Bounds of Christian Freedom by Samuel Bolton

The True Bounds of Christian Freedom (free ebook formats)

Exodus 19

Leviticus 26

Deuteronomy 28

Galatians 4:4

Galatians 3 and 4

Galatians 3:19

Not By Faith Alone: The Neonomianism of Richard Baxter (1615-91)

Not By Faith Alone Audio

Christ Reformed Church at Santee, California

Sermons of Mike Brown

Oct 7, 2016

In this episode, Lee and Chris pick up where they left off in episode 6, by answering three more listener questions.  The theme continues to be covenant theology in general and the Mosaic covenant in particular.


Show Notes:


Merit and Moses: A Critique of the Klinean Doctrine of Republication

Response to Merit and Moses: A Critique of the Klinean Doctrine of Republication

Response to Merit and Moses Audio

Deuteronomy 9:4-6

Exodus 32:13

God, Heaven, and Har Magedon page 128

Genesis 22

Kingdom Prologue page 325

Response to the Core Argument Part 1

Response to the Core Argument Part 1 Audio

Response to the Core Argument Part 2

Response to the Core Argument Part 2 Audio

Genesis 15

Exodus 24

Genesis 2

Kingdom Prologue pages 1-7 and 14-21

2 Samuel 7

Psalm 89:3, 34

Genesis chapters 1, 2, and 3

Genesis 3:22-24

Genesis 2:16-17

Genesis 2:15

Genesis 3:1

Ephesians 5:22-33

Kingdom Prologue pages 103 and following

Philippians 2:8

Sep 30, 2016

Show Notes:


God, Heaven, and Har Magedon page 128

Exodus 32

Galatians 3:19-25

Leviticus 26

Deuteronomy 27 and 28

Leviticus 1 – 7

Leviticus 16

Leviticus 21 – 22

Leviticus 23

Leviticus 25

Exodus 19

Numbers 10

Genesis 15

Genesis 22


Acts 13

Acts 15

Kingdom Prologue page 322 – 323

Sep 23, 2016

Show Notes:


Kingdom Prologue page 321

Genesis 3:15

Galatians 3:19

Galatians 3:17

“Gospel Until the Law”

Gospel Until the Law Audio

Galatians 3:10-12

Leviticus 18:5

Habakkuk 2:4

Exodus 32:13

Galatians 3:10

Deuteronomy 27:26

Psalm 51

2 Corinthians 3

Hebrews 10:1

Genesis 3:15

Genesis 3:22-24

Genesis 12:7

Genesis 15

Genesis 13:10

Genesis 15:18

Galatians 3:13

Kingdom Prologue pages 295-300

Jeremiah 34:17-18


  1. Genesis = the Promise
  2. Exodus – Malachi = first-level fulfillment
  3. Matthew – Revelation = second-level fulfillment

Structure of Biblical Authority pages 156-158

The Book of the Kings

Galatians 4:4 – the key verse

Kingdom Prologue page 352

Galatians 3:24

Westminster Confession of Faith Chapter 8, paragraph 4

Romans 10:4-5

Sep 16, 2016

Show Notes: Donate The works principle Leviticus 18:5 – Do this and live The grace principle/The faith principle The Sinai covenant is a national covenant that is distinct from the covenant of grace Genesis 3:15 Kingdom Prologue pages 320 – 323 (esp

Sep 9, 2016

Show notes Episode 3


Exodus 20, 21, 22, 23


Definition of covenant

Genesis 15

Leviticus 26
Deuteronomy 27 and 28

Galatians 3 and 4

Romans 5:13-14

Gospel Until the Law

Gospel Until the Law Audio

Genesis 13:8

Galatians 3:18

Leviticus 18:5

Habakkuk 2:4

Genesis 3:15

Galatians 3:19

Galatians 4:4-5

Kingdom Prologue pp. 352ff.

By Oath Consigned

  • Kline provides a grand vision of the heavenly drama of God’s kingdom – a whole-Bible systematic and biblical theology from Genesis to Revelation
  • His analysis of biblical covenants helps to orient us as we read the Bible
  • The works principle is foundational to the gospel

Kingdom Prologue page 109

Kingdom Prologue page 107 – Heaven must be earned

“Of Works and Grace”

Of Works and Grace Audio

Covenant Theology Under Attack

Covenant Theology Under Attack Audio

Kingdom Prologue pp. 107 – 117 “Answering Objections to the Covenant of Works

Answering Objections to the Covenant of Works Audio

Sep 2, 2016

In this episode, Chris Caughey and Charles Lee Irons discuss the three main contributions of Meredith Kline: Old Testament eschatology, Ancient Near Eastern suzerain-vassal treaties, and the sharp distinction between the holy and the common.


Kingdom Prologue pages 96 – 101


Kingdom Prologue pages 157 – 158


Images of the Spirit page 20


Glory in Our Midst


Zechariah 4:2ff


Treaty of the Great King page 23


By Oath Consigned


Westminster Theological Journal “Law Covenant” 1964


Galatians 3:18


God, Heaven, and Har Magedon


Kingdom Prologue 138 – 142


Kingdom Prologue 292 – 355 “The Kingdom Promised in the Abrahamic Covenant”


Genesis 13


Youtube playlist of Pentateuch lectures


Kingdom Prologue 155 – 160


Genesis 9


“Comments On an Old-New Error”


Critique of Frame and Poythress


Journal of Church and State – 2 articles


Critique of Dispensationalism


Two Adams

Aug 25, 2016

In this pilot episode, Chris Caughey and Charles Lee Irons discuss who Meredith Kline was, and why he was important.