We continue our discussion of common grace this week. This time, we focus on the poor and who should provide for them. First, we consider whether it should be the state. Next, we consider whether it should be the family, Finally, we consider whether the Church ought to take care of all poor people. Please let us know what you think!
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To the Church in Smyrna: The Story of Fikret Bocek
Update on Fikret Bocek’s current situation
Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 172 - 180
Daniel 4:27
Acts
Minority Report, Committee on Foreign Missions
Minority Report audio
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This week, we discuss the worshiping community, and the common grace city-state. First we talk about how important it was that God swore an oath to Cain. Next, we talk about how God uses the State to keep things from being as bad as they could possibly be. Yet we also talk about how the State is like a wild animal that can harm us. Finally, we talk about how we should care for people made in God’s image, no matter our politics.
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To the Church in Smyrna: The Story of Fikret Bocek
Update on Fikret Bocek’s current situation
The Tale of Two Adams by Chris Caughey
Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 161 - 169
Revelation 21:2
Genesis 4:1 - 6:8
Genesis 4:17
Genesis 9
Genesis 4:15
The Oracular Origin of the State by Meredith Kline
The Oracular Origin of the State audio
Psalm 82:6
Romans 13
Genesis 3
Ecclesiastes
Revelation 13
Genesis 11
Daniel
Sergeant York film
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Todd Bordow joins the show as co-host this week. We discuss common grace and common curse. First we talk about what it means for grace and curse to be common. Next, we talk about how these things are not ultimate. Finally, we talk about how common does not mean neutral.
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To the Church in Smyrna: The Story of Fikret Bocek
Update on Fikret Bocek’s current situation
The Tale of Two Adams by Chris Caughey
Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 153 - 160
Genesis 3:16-19
Genesis 4
Romans 13
Hebrews 4
Revelation
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This week we are joined by Kerry Baldwin. She is an independent researcher who is doing some important work. First, we explore the impact that Meredith Kline has had on her thinking about gender. Next, we talk about the debate between complementarianism and egalitarianism. Finally, we discuss abortion.
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The Tale of Two Adams by Chris Caughey
Dare to Think and Flashes of Liberty podcasts with Kerry Baldwin
1 John 4:1
Systematic Theology by Wayne Grudem
067 - Kingdom Prologue - Ch 4 - Answer 3 Objections to Merit and Works
Vindicating the Vixens by Sandra Glahn
Why Is The Gospel Coalition Complementarian?
1 Timothy 2:13
Ephesians 5
Isaiah 66:2
Covenant Theology Under Attack by Meredith Kline
Covenant Theology Under Attack audio
060 - Kingdom Prologue P1 Ch 3 Cultural Mandate
1 Timothy 2:5
Biblical Foundations for Manhood and Womanhood edited by Wayne Grudem
Genesis 2:23
Images of the Spirit by Meredith Kline
Lex Talionis and the Human Fetus by Meredith Kline
How the Pro-life Movement is Aborting a Pro-life Era
The Christian Feminist View of Abortion
Scars Across Humanity by Elaine Storkey
The State in the New Testament by Oscar Cull-man
https://www.patreon.com/kerrybaldwin
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There is an important announcement at the end of this episode! Lee and Chris cover two glorious verses this week: Genesis 3:20-21. First, we talk about Adam’s confession of faith. Adam says, “Amen” to God’s promise in Genesis 3:15. Next, we talk about the remarriage of Adam and Eve. Finally, we talk about the way the animal skins God uses to cover Adam and Eve, point forward to Christ’s sacrifice and his righteousness which covers us.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 149 - 153
Genesis 3:15 - 21
Genesis 15:6
“Abram’s Amen” by Meredith Kline
Luke 1:42
Hosea 2:16
Jeremiah 31:31-34
Hosea 2:2-3, 23
Philippians 2:8
Genesis 3:24
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This week, Lee and Chris cover familiar territory in Kingdom Prologue. First, we discuss Genesis 3:15. Kline connects that verse to passages in Revelation 12, Psalm 2, and Daniel 7. Next, we talk about the atonement. God’s love and his justice are not in competition. God demonstrates his love toward us in that he satisfies his own justice by sending his Son to bear the punishment we deserve. Finally, we talk about election. Genesis 3:15 is the first glimpse we get of that doctrine in the Bible.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 143 - 149
Genesis 3:15
Revelation 12
Psalm 2
Daniel 7
Romans 5
1 Corinthians 15
Numbers 24:17
Matthew 4:8
Ezekiel 28
Psalm 24
Deuteronomy 6:13-16, 8:3
John 17:4
Isaiah
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We continue our journey through Kingdom Prologue this week. First, we discuss the common curse. Life is hard, and then we die. Next, we talk about the covenant between the Father and the Son. It is different than the covenant between the Father and Adam. It is also different than the covenant of grace found in Genesis 3:15. Finally we focus on how Christ accomplished our redemption.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 134 - 141
Genesis 3:14-24
Romans 5
Joshua
1 Peter 3:20-22
Kline’s Covenant Theology 1-page handout
Comments on A.A. Hodge’s One-Covenant Construction by M.G. Kline
Comments on A.A. Hodge's One-Covenant Construction audio
Genesis 1 and 2
Hosea 6:7
John 10:18ff.
Matthew 3:15
Galatians 4:4
Isaiah 42, 49, 50, 52, 53
2 Corinthians 4:4
John 6:38
Psalm 2:7-8
John 17:4-5
Luke 22:29-30
Galatians 3:16
Psalm 89:29
Hebrews 5:18
Romans 5:12-21
Genesis 3:15
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Chris and Lee are back this week! First, we talk about God storming into the garden as the Spirit of The Day. Next, we talk about the way God interrogates Adam and Eve. Then we talk about God’s curse upon the serpent. But the best part is the discussion of the first announcement of the gospel in Genesis 3:15.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 128 - 134
Genesis 3:15
Genesis 3:8
Psalm 29
Genesis 3:7
James 3:9
Genesis 2:25
Genesis 3:1
Genesis 3:9-11
John 8:44
1 John 3:8-9
Genesis 12
1 Samuel 17
Colossians 2:15
Romans 16
Revelation 12:10
1 John 5
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Due to technical difficulties, this week’s episode is Meredith Kline himself discussing the material from chapter 5, section 2 of Kingdom Prologue, entitled “Judgment Day.” First, there is a recap of Kline’s exegesis of Genesis 3:8. Next, Kline discusses the interrogation of Adam and Eve, and the cursing of the serpent. Let us know what you think!
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 128 - 134
Genesis 3:8
Genesis 3:14-21
Luke 24
Isaiah 53
Daniel 7
Romans 16:20
Revelation 12
Revelation 19
Revelation 20
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In this episode, Lee and Chris discuss the temptation and fall of Adam and Eve. First, we begin by looking at the serpent and the devil’s use of that other creature. Next, we look at the sins of omission of both Adam and Eve. Finally, we appreciate Kline’s view that Eve converted to the new satanic religion, and became the first missionary of that new religion. But take heart: this episode ends with the gospel!
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Kingdom Prologueby Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 118 – 126
Genesis 2 and 3
Deuteronomy 30;15, 19
Genesis 2:15-17
Romans 5
1 Corinthians 15
Genesis 3:1
Matthew 13
1 John 3
John 8:44
Luke 10:18-19
Romans 16:20
Revelation 12:9
Revelation 20:2
Zechariah 3
Revelation 12
Job
1 Corinthians 6:3
John 5:27
Genesis 3:15
Judges
Philippians 2
2 Thessalonians 2
Genesis 3:6-7
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This week is theological MMA (mixed martial arts). Kline answered three main objections to the principles of merit, simple justice, and the covenant of works. His arguments are strong and forceful, but Lee and Chris press them. Like last week, this also involves the definition of grace. Give it a listen and let us know what you think!
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 110 - 116
Answering Objections to the Covenant of Works by Meredith Kline
Romans 8:30
Romans 5:18
Romans 2:13
Romans 3:9-10
Genesis 1 – 2
Episode 24 – Kline’s Definition of Grace
Romans 11:6
Leviticus 18:5
Deuteronomy 27:26
Luke 17:10
Redefining Merit by Lee Irons
Why I Believe in Monocovenantalism by Michael Bird
Covenant Theology Under Attack by Meredith Kline
Covenant Theology Under Attack audio
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If you appreciate Meredith Kline’s theology, this is a must-listen episode. He always talked about law and gospel, works and grace. Since this is so closely tied to justification, he would look for opportunities to work these things into lectures and conversations. Take notes and learn some of the most important hermeneutical principles!
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 107 – 110
Answering Objections to the Covenant of Works by Meredith Kline
Episode 24 – Kline’s Definition of Grace
Gospel and Law: Contrast or Continuum by Daniel P. Fuller
Romans 5
1 John
Galatians 4:24-26
Leviticus 18:5
Habakkuk 2:4
Hosea
Deuteronomy
Galatians 4:4
Galatians 2 and 3
Galatians 3:13-14
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This week Lee and Chris discuss the other side of the eschatological sanctions: the curse sanction. We also discuss judgment and what it means to know good and evil. This subject can get very heavy – even depressing – but we make sure to bring it back to the gospel. The good news is that we do not bear the curse or the final judgment because Jesus has borne the curse for us!
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 101 - 107
Pentateuch 29 – Eschatological Sanctions & Probation [Meredith G. Kline]
Genesis 2:15-17
Revelation 20:6, 14
Exodus 14:19-20, 24
Revelation 14:10
2 Thessalonians 1:9
John 3:16
Romans 3:25
1 John 2:2
Romans 4:25
John 5:24
1 Kings 3:9-28
Isaiah 5:20, 23
2 Samuel 14:17
Genesis 3:5, 22
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This is one of our most interesting conversations, yet. First, we pick back up with why glorification is necessary. Next, we talk about technology and culture. Finally, we talk about the glorification God would have clothed upon Adam and Eve’s mega-family if they had not fallen into sin.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 99 - 101
Pentateuch 29 – Eschatological Sanctions & Probation [Meredith G. Kline]
Genesis 1:1
Episode 48 (Meredith Kline on the Glory-Spirit compared to Eastern Orthodox Theosis)
Genesis 1 and 2
Mark 14:58
Hebrews 9:11
2 Kings 6:8-17
1 Corinthians 15:50
Revelation 21 and 22
Metaculture
Metapolis
“Understanding Meredith Kline” by Lee Irons (Bahnsen Conference at Branch of Hope OPC)
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This week we begin chapter 4! This episode will blow your mind. First, we tackle Kline’s disagreement with the Westminster Confession of Faith chapter 7, section 1. Next, we talk about the two trees: the Tree of Life, and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Finally, we talk about how Adam would have attained to glorification.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 91 – 97
Westminster Confession of Faith Ch. 7.1
Covenant Theology in Reformed Perspective by Mark Karlberg
The Original State of Adam: Tensions Within Reformed Theology by Mark Karlberg
Reformed Interpretation of the Mosaic Covenant by Mark Karlberg
Redefining Merit: An Examination of Medieval Presuppositions in Covenant Theology Lee Irons
Exodus 40
1 Kings 8
Genesis 3:21-23
Ezekiel 47:7, 12
Revelation 2:7
Revelation 22:2
Proverbs 3:18
Proverbs 11:30
Genesis 2:7
John 17:3
John 1:4
Sabbath
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We finish up chapter 3 this week. First, we wrap up the discussion of Sabbath. But next we get into the topic of Adam’s mandate to be a priest. He was to guard the garden of God, and he failed. Let us know what you think!
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 80 – 90
Sabbath is a sign of the covenant
Sabbath is theocratic
Sabbath is a sign of consummation
Genesis 1
“Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony” by Meredith G. Kline
Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony Audio
Exodus 31:14
Genesis 17:14
Exodus 31:13, 17
Isaiah 24:8
Hosea 1:4
1 Corinthians 15:24, 28
Genesis 2:15
Numbers 1:53
Numbers 3:10
Numbers 18:4-5
Genesis 3:24
Genesis 3:15
Revelation 12
Exodus 19:6
Revelation 1:6
Revelation 5:9
Joshua 3, 6
Revelation 19
Genesis 1:28
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This week we are still in chapter 3. First, we finish up a section about the cultural mandate. But next we get into the topic of the sabbath-structure of time and history. This is mind-expanding stuff!
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 74 - 81
The Law of the creation theocracy
Cult and culture
Image of God is like the indicative
Imitation of God is like the imperative
Genesis 5:1-3
Isaiah 40:22
Psalm 104:1-2
Proverbs
Genesis 4
1 Kings 4:29-34
Matthew 6:29
Genesis 3
Exodus 20:11
Genesis 2:2-3
Mark 2:28
Exodus 31:13-17
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This week we talk about chapter 3 and the theocratic kingdom commission. Mostly this is about the cultural commission. However, we even get into a discussion of infant baptism. There’s a little something for everyone!
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Kingdom Prologue pp. 66 – 74
Genesis 1:28
Genesis 2:15
1 Peter 2
Deuteronomy 10:20
Malachi 2:14
Genesis 3:16
1 Corinthians 11:8-9
Ephesians 6
“Adam the Federal Head of his Race” by Charles Hodge
“Inquiries respecting the Doctrine of Imputation” by Charles Hodge
Exodus 19:6
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This week we finish up chapter 2 with the metaphor of the divine shield. Then we turn to chapter 3 and talk about the image of God. It’s true that we covered this extensively in our series on Images of the Spirit. But this week we talk about the imperative to be like God that is embedded in our being made in God’s image.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Animal Death Before the Fall: What Does the Bible Say? by Lee Irons
Romans 5:12-13
Kingdom Prologue pp. 57 – 65
Ezekiel 28
Revelation 7:15
Isaiah 4:5-6
Psalm105:39
Psalm 91:1-2, 4, 9
Deuteronomy 33:29
Psalm 3:3
Psalm 91:4
Psalm 144:2
Psalm 84:11
Psalm 116:12
Psalm 103:2
Leviticus 11:44
Matthew 5:44-48
Genesis 17:1
Job 1:1
Deuteronomy 6:4-5
John 14:21
John 15:14
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We probably should have named this episode: Bacon! Or, peanut butter and chocolate. But in this episode, we talk about consecration. Furthermore, we talk about animal death before the fall. Most noteworthy, we answer arguments against the idea of animal death before the fall. We forgot to mention Lee’s paper on animal death during the episode, so click on the link below and benefit from his clear, helpful explanation.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Grace: God’s favor shown toward someone who has (de)merited his disfavor.
Consecration: the subordination of the interests of one person/thing to another.
Nature-parables
Animal Death Before the Fall: What Does the Bible Say? by Lee Irons
Psalm 104:19-24
Genesis 1 and 2
1 Timothy 4:3-5
Genesis 1:31
Romans 5:12-13
Genesis 1:29
Genesis 2:16-17
Genesis 9:3
Genesis 4:3-5
Genesis 7:2
Acts 10
Isaiah 65:25
Isaiah 11:6-9
Luke 24:41-43
Romans 8:19ff.
“Death, Leviathan, and Martyrs: Isaiah 24:1-27” by Meredith G. Kline
Ezekiel 37
Job 19:25
Psalm 91:11-12
Deuteronomy 27 and 28
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We are continuing on through Kingdom Prologue. First of all, we talk about the Kingdom of God. Furthermore, we talk about theocracy. Most noteworthy, we talk about how truly unique theocracy is.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Genesis 1:2
Genesis 2:7
Luke 3:38
Genesis 5:1-3
Luke 1:26-38
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 2:7
Ezekiel 28:13-14, 16
Genesis 3:8
Psalm 29
Genesis 3:24
Exodus 40
Isaiah 4:2-5
Deuteronomy 32:11
Ezekiel 43
Deuteronomy 12:4
1 Kings 6:29, 32
2 Peter 3
Revelation 21 and 22
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We are continuing on through Kingdom Prologue. First of all, we talk about Sabbath and consecration. Furthermore, we talk about the Framework interpretation. Most noteworthy, we talk about the hope built into being made in the image of God.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Sabbath and Consecration
“Because It Had Not Rained,” by Meredith G. Kline
“Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony,” by Meredith G. Kline
“Because It Had Rained,” by Mark D. Futato
The Framework Interpretation: An Exegetical Summary by Lee Irons
Genesis 2:5
Genesis 1:2
Genesis 1:22
Kingdom Prologue pg. 39
Genesis 2:2
Genesis 2:7
In His Own Image and Likeness by W. Randall Gar
Psalm 8
1 Corinthians 15
Hebrews 2
Job
Genesis 3:22
1 Kings 3
Ezekiel 26
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 9:5-6
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Due to our improved health, we are back to Kingdom Prologue. First of all, we talk about the presence of the Glory-Spirit at creation. Furthermore, we talk about eschatology. Eschatology comes before soteriology. In other words, the ultimate, heavenly kingdom of God is a reality before salvation becomes necessary. Most noteworthy, we talk about the Sabbath rest.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Genesis 1:2
Deuteronomy 32:10-11
Isaiah 64:1
Genesis 2:1-3
Genesis 1:31
Isaiah 66:1
1 Chronicles 28:2
Psalm 132:8, 14
Exodus 20:11
Deuteronomy 12:9
Hebrews 4
Psalm 95
Romans 11:36
2 Samuel 7:1
Revelation 19-22
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Due to illness this week, we have a different plan. This week we will listen to Meredith Kline himself. First of all, he talks about the prophets. Furthermore, he talks about the Mosaic covenant. Most noteworthy, he talks about the failure of Israel.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Function of the Prophets
Prophets prosecute God’s covenant lawsuit (“rib/riv”) against Israel
First stage: complaint – warning – offer of reconciliation – indictment of sins
Second stage: judgement – condemnation – fall of Israel
The Mosaic covenant ended in failure
Deuteronomy 28 and 29
Deuteronomy 28:1-2, 13-15
Deuteronomy 31:16-18
Deuteronomy 31:24-27
Deuteronomy 32
Deuteronomy 30
Deuteronomy 4
Leviticus 26:42
Hosea
Isaiah
2 Chronicles 36
Nehemiah 9:30
Zechariah 1:4-6
Structure of Biblical Authority, pp. 58, 62, and 136
Jeremiah 18:7ff.
Jonah
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Due to our enthusiasm for Kingdom Prologue, we press on! First of all, we talk about God, the Alpha-Author. Furthermore, we talk about the distinction between God as the creator, and everything else as the creation. Most noteworthy, we talk about how the ancient pagan myths are a garbled copy of the truth.
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Kingdom Prologue by Meredith G. Kline
Romans 5
1 Corinthians 15
Ephesians 5
Colossians 3:10
Ephesians 4:24
Psalm 8
Daniel 7
Genesis
Colossians 1:16
Nehemiah 9:6
Revelation
Ezekiel
Proverbs 8:22-31
John 1:1-3
1 Corinthians 1:24
Isaiah 45:18
Job 38:4
Isaiah 66:1
Psalm 11:4
Psalm 139
Job26:10ff.
Psalm 89:10
Isaiah 44:24
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