In this episode, we discuss Appendix A from God, Heaven and Har Magedon: Space and Time in the Genesis Cosmogony. This is Kline’s most mature thinking about the Framework Interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2. First we talk about the biblical distinction between the upper and lower registers. Next, we discuss the thematic arrangement of the days of Genesis 1. Finally, we discuss how Genesis 2:5-7 teaches that God’s ordinary providence was at work in the days of creation.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 223 - 250
Space & Time in the Genesis Cosmogony by M. G. Kline
Introduction to the Framework Interpretation
Genesis 1
Psalm 102:2-4
Genesis 1:1
Colossians 1:16
Job 38:7
Genesis 1:2
Genesis 1:3 - 2:3
Genesis 2
Psalm 19
Hebrews 4
Exodus 20:11
Genesis 2:4
Genesis 5:1
Genesis 2:5-7
Job 36
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This week we finish the last chapter of the book. First we talk about how the catharsis-cleansing from last week’s episode will set the stage for God filling the New Heavens and the New Earth. Next, we look at Christ’s role as the mediator of that filling. Finally, we talk about how God gives all this to us freely.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 214 - 222
Revelation 22
Daniel 2:35
Revelation 7
Romans 11
Ephesians 1
Revelation 21:3
Isaiah 4:5
Genesis 1
Revelation 1:4-5
John 14
Revelation 3:21
John 17:11, 22
Ephesians 1:11
Isaiah 55:1-2
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This week we look at the ultimate fulfillment of the Canaanite conquest. When Israel killed every living thing in Canaan, it was a miniature picture of what will happen in the final conflict between Satan and unbelievers on the one hand, and Jesus and believers on the other hand. We also talk about how this wiping out of unbelievers at the Final Judgment is the end of common grace.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 208 - 214
Episode 26 - Apologetics & the Canaanite Conquest
2 Thessalonians
Revelation
Genesis 9
2 Peter
Haggai
Daniel 2
Daniel 7
Revelation 21
Revelation 20
Isaiah
Romans 8
Job 16:18
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This week we look at the biblical-theological theme of Har Magedon Gatherings. First we look at some Old Testament types. Next, we look at references to the ultimate Har Magedon gathering in the gospels. Finally we look at what this gathering means for those who do not trust Christ.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 199 - 208
Hebrews 12
Revelation 20
Revelation 14
Matthew 14
Leviticus
Numbers
Revelation 19
Zechariah 9
1 Corinthians 6
Revelation 2
Genesis 6:5
Zechariah 9 and 14
Ezekiel 38 and 39
Daniel 11
2 Thessalonians 2
Revelation 16, 19 and 20
Daniel 7
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This week Todd and Chris discuss Kline’s most mature exegesis regarding the Sabbath. First, we talk about the connection between the Sabbath and Judgment Day. Next, we talk about the symbol of the Sabbath. After that, we talk about the idea of “The Lord’s Day.” Finally, we talk about Kline’s proposal for what to call the Christian day of worship.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 187 - 198
Genesis 3:8
Deuteronomy 5:15
Genesis 2
Exodus 16
Acts 15
Revelation 1:10
2 Peter 3:7-13
Romans 14:5
Colossians 2:16-19
Hebrews 3 & 4
Ephesians 1
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We are back to God, Heaven and Har Magedon! First we discuss how the final assault of Antichrist on Har Magedon can be seen in OT types and shadows. Next we look at how the Antichrist crisis is described in Revelation. Finally, Todd asks Chris tough questions. You don’t want to miss it!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 1179 - 186
Revelation 11:9
Revelation 20:3
Revelation 17:10
Revelation 17:12
Revelation 20:3-7
Revelation 11
2 Thessalonians 2
Revelation 13
2 Thessalonians 2:9
Ezekiel 38:2-6
Revelation 12
The Book of Revelation by Greg Beale
Triumph of the Lamb by Dennis Johnson
Ezekiel 39
Revelation 19
Revelation 20
Chiasm:
a. Rev. 12:9 - Dragon
b. Rev. 13:14 - the Beast wages war
c. Rev. 16:13-16 - Dragon, Beast, false prophet
d. Rev. 19:19-20 - Beast and false prophet
e. Rev. 20:7-10 - Dragon
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This week we take a break from God, Heaven, and Har Magedon in order to talk to Dr. Bryan Estelle of Westminster Seminary California about his book Echoes of Exodus: Tracing a Biblical Motif. This book has something for everyone. Pour a cup of coffee and enjoy this conversation!
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Echoes of Exodus by Bryan Estelle
Genesis 3:15-21ff.
Galatians 4:4-5
Psalm 23
Deuteronomy 28
Luke 4
Luke 9
Revelation
Isaiah 43
Revelation 21
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If you started out your Christian life in churches like Todd and Chris did, you probably got a heavy dose of dispensational premillennialism. In this episode, we compare and contrast premillennialism, postmillennialism, and amillennialism. First we talk about the way the Old Testament prophets talked about the millennial period. Next, we talk about how the book of Revelation talks about the same period of time. Finally we talk about how the real question is: When does the Kingdom come in power and glory?
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 164 - 179
Daniel 9
Daniel 7
2 Corinthians 3:12
Daniel 12
Daniel 2
Revelation 11
Revelation 13
1 Peter
Matthew
Revelation 20
2 Thessalonians 2:6-7
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Much of Jesus’s life and ministry took place on mountains - and yet he avoided Jerusalem. When Jesus underwent his wilderness temptation as the Last Adam, he defeated Satan. Now Satan is bound so that he cannot stop the spread of the gospel around the whole world. Download, listen, and tell your friends!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 156 - 165
Matthew 28:16
Revelation 12
Genesis 3
Psalm 2
Revelation 19
Isaiah 14
Hebrews 2:14
John 12:31
Revelation 20
Isaiah 49:24-25
Matthew 12:29
Matthew 28:18-20
Exodus 20
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Daniel chapters 2 and 9 are the focus of this week’s episode. First, in Daniel 2, there are two mountains: Israel is the mountain that cuts into the world power, and another mountain that crushes all world powers. Next, Daniel 9 is about God’s promise that within 70 weeks of Israel’s captivity, God would send the Messiah and ultimately save his people. Finally we talk about how the Jubilee is the key, and how Jesus is one who guarantees the ultimate salvation.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 145 - 154
Daniel 2
Isaiah 2:2
Daniel 9
Isaiah 10
Matthew 1
Revelation 19
Psalms
Genesis 9
Matthew 24
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When Joshua led Israel into the Promised Land, they went through another baptismal ordeal in the Jordan River. The war that ensued was not a just war as measured by the principle of common grace - it was holy war. Then Israel’s kings were mostly pictures of what Jesus would not be like. Finally, the mountain-site of the temple was a picture of heaven itself. Download, subscribe, and tell your friends!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 134 - 144
Joshua 5:1-10
Joshua 23:1
Hebrews 4:8-9
Joshua 23 - 24
Deuteronomy 17
2 Samuel 7
2 Samuel 5 - 6
Philippians 2
Hebrews 9
Genesis 3
1 Corinthians 15
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This week, we talk about republication from a few different angles. First, God gave Canaan to Israel because of his gracious promise to Abraham. Second, God is the divine warrior who defeats all of Israel’s enemies - both human and demonic. Third, God’s presence is located in different places before and after Sinai. Finally, the typological covenant of works with Israel shows us that sinners sin. Download, subscribe, and tell your friends!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 127 - 134
Romans 3 and 9
Deuteronomy 31:16
Faculty Forum Response by Meredith G. Kline
Joshua
2 Samuel 7
Revelation 18
Exodus 15
Numbers
Revelation 4
Genesis 2
Revelation 19
Numbers 14
Genesis 15
Amos 5:25
Joshua 5:5
John 1:17
1 Peter 1:5
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In this section, Kline looks at how God reveals the consummation of all things in the types and shadows of Israel. Next, he describes the relationship between a covenant that God makes, and the canon (or authoritative body of literature) that governs the covenant. Finally, he ties together phenomena like the Holy Spirit hovering (over creation and over Israel), the tabernacle, and the movement of all of that into God’s Sabbath rest. God creates and he redeems - from beginning to end. Download, subscribe, and tell your friends!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 120 - 127
Exodus 1 - 18
Exodus 19 - 50
The Structure of Biblical Authority by Meredith Kline
Kingdom Prologue by Meredith Kline
Exodus 20 - 23
Exodus 24
Jeremiah 4
Deuteronomy 28
Exodus 12:2
Genesis 1:2
Exodus 10:21
Exodus 25 - 32
Genesis 2:2
Proverbs 8
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If you are concerned about standing before God on Judgment Day, we double down on our insistence that you have already undergone that judgment in Christ. First, we talk about how different events in the Old Testament were types of the final judgment. Next, we talk about the redemptive judgment aspect of events like the flood and crossing the Red Sea. Finally, we talk about how Har Magedon will be the location of the final judgment.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 113 -
Genesis 15
Exodus 3
Genesis 3
1 Corinthians 10
1 Peter 3
Psalm 63
Psalm 78
Exodus 13:18
Exodus 17
Deuteronomy 32:10
Genesis 1
Jeremiah 31
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We continue in chapter 10 this week. First, we talk about how worship during the time of Abraham was not theocratic. He built altars, but the culture all around him was very much like ours. Next, we talk about how - even at Abraham’s stage of history - there was an antichrist crisis. God’s people do suffer, but God has not lost in past antichrist crises - and he won’t lose in the final Antichrist crisis.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 106 - 113
Genesis 49
Genesis 20
Exodus
Hebrews 11
Genesis 12ff.
Psalm 105
2 Corinthians 4
Exodus 1
Genesis 6
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This week we begin with a discussion of the typological significance of Abraham’s obedience. Next, we turn to the topic of Abraham living at peace with his unbelieving neighbors. Finally we talk about how our time in covenant history is very much like Abraham’s.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 102 - 106
Genesis 15:1
Genesis 22:16-18
Genesis 26
Galatians 3:17
Genesis 14
Jeremiah 29
1 Timothy 2
Daniel
Genesis 10
Exodus
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Can it ever hurt to talk about the gospel some more? No. We didn’t think so, either. This week we talk about the gospel promises that God gave Abraham. First we talk about the first-level fulfillments in Isaac, Israel, and Canaan. Next we talk about the second-level fulfillment in Jesus, believers in Jesus, and the new heavens and new earth. Finally, you get an extra bonus with Todd’s helpful understanding of Ephesians 6.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 93 - 102
Genesis 3
Genesis 12
Genesis 9
Galatians 3
Romans 4:3
Genesis 15
Jeremiah 38:14
Romans 9
Jeremiah 31
1 & 2 Kings
1 & 2 Chronicles
Romans 11
Ephesians 6
Romans 4:13
Hebrews 11:9
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There is some review this week with the material about Noah. But we think you’ll find our conversation full of fresh insights. First, we talk about how Noah was a type of Christ in his obedience. Next, we talk about what this episode of covenant history teaches us about the antichrist crisis. Finally we talk about final judgment and how it is a great source of comfort and assurance to believers in Jesus.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 78 - 92
Genesis 3
Genesis 9
Genesis 6
Genesis 7:1
Genesis 6:8
2 Peter 3:1-10
Genesis 4
Genesis 6:1-4
Jude 6
Genesis 7:16
Hebrews 11:7
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This week we talk about Genesis 3:8 and covenant theology. First, we discuss God’s appearance after Adam and Eve were covenant breakers. Next, we discuss the differences between the eternal Covenant of Redemption and the historical Covenant of Grace. Finally we talk about the Antichrist and preaching redemptive-historically.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 70 - 77
Genesis 3:8
Genesis 3:14-15
John 6:38
Psalm 2
Luke 22:29
Acts 20:28
John 17:4-5
2 Samuel 7
Genesis 2:17
Revelation 13
1 John 1-2
Biblical Theology: Old and New Testaments by Vos
Preaching Christ in all of Scripture by Clowney
Preaching the Whole Bible as Christian Scripture by Graeme Goldsworthy
According to Plan by Graeme Goldsworthy
Christ-Centered Biblical Theology by Graeme Goldsworthy
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We finish up chapter seven this week. First we revisit the question: Is Ezekiel 28 talking about Adam or Satan? Next, we talk about what it meant for Adam to guard the garden. Finally, we talk about how Jesus is like both Adam and Israel in wilderness temptation. And you know what that means: Republication!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 65 - 69
Ezekiel 28:15-16
Luke 10:18
Psalm 8
Genesis 2
2 Samuel
1 Kings
2 Kings
Ephesiahs 5:22-33
Genesis 3
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Since chapter 6 is all about how Megiddo is not Har Magedon, we move quickly through that, and spend most of our time discussing the first few sections of chapter 7. First, we talk about how heaven must be earned. Next, we talk about Sabbath and probation. Finally, we talk about Kline’s argument about merit. Subscribe, download, and tell your friends!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 49 - 65
Revelation 16:16
Revelation 9:11
Isaiah 14:13-14
Ezekiel 38 - 39
Proverbs 8
Revelation 1 - 2
Psalm 24
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Everyone (who reads Kline) knows that Har Magedon is a mountain. But did you know that Eden was a mountain, too? First we discuss how Eden was a replica of heaven. Next we talk about how Canaan was like Eden (and like heaven). We take a moment to camp out on the idea of the Sabbath. Finally, we talk about how the republication of the covenant of works at Sinai is related to Eden being a mountainous replica of heaven. You’re going to like this!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 40 - 48
Genesis 1:2
Genesis 3:8
Ezekiel 28:13-14
Genesis 13
Ezekiel 47:12
Psalm 132:8
Isaiah 66
Hebrews 4
Hebrews 3-5
Isaiah 14:13
Psalm 48:2
Genesis 3
Hosea 6:7
Matthew 1-5
Isaiah 2:1-2
Ezekiel 28
Isaiah 6
Genesis 2
Isaiah 54
Isaiah 31:5
Psalm 24
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Chapter 4 is the last one that focuses on heaven the way this book has been so far. In this chapter, Kline suggests that the Spirit replicates the glory of God in every aspect of creation. For example, we see the theme of the Spirit of God overshadowing persons or groups of people throughout the Bible. In the same way, God designed certain things in creation to serve that same overshadowing function. But we also talk about patriarchy and Kline’s unique take on the image of God in man. There’s something for everyone!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 31 - 39
Genesis 1:1-2
Nehemiah 9:19-20
Deuteronomy 32:10-12
Matthew 17:5
Mark 9:7
Luke 9:34
Psalm 19
Genesis 2:2-3
Hebrews 4
Psalm 82
Colossians 3:10
Daniel 12
Job
Psalm 104:6
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What will it be like when God transforms this creation into the new heavens and new earth? That is the topic Kline is dealing with in this chapter. One possibility is that there will be a lot of continuity with this creation. Another possibility is that there will be such radical discontinuity that it is almost as though God must create everything all over again. Give the episode a listen and let us know what you think!
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 18 - 27
Ephesians 6
Isaiah 51:6
Revelation 6:14
2 Peter 3:10-13
Genesis 8:22
Isaiah 11:6-9
Isaiah 65:25
Genesis 2
Romans 8:19-22
1 Thessalonians 4:17-18
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We’re treading in deep water this week. First, Kline talks about the physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit in the initial creation of the invisible heavens. Kline calls that physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit “endoxation.” Next, we talk about the Holy Spirit’s role in the incarnation, and the relationship between the persons of the Trinity. Finally, we distinguish what Kline is saying from what Scott Oliphint is saying.
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God, Heaven & Har Magedon by Meredith G. Kline
God, Heaven & Har Magedon pp. 10 - 15
Genesis 1:1
Colossians 1:16
Job 38:7
Genesis 1:2
Exodus
Hebrews 4
Ephesians 4
Genesis 22
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